PSE going on my '14 C4S Tomorrow
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If you can find just the button (for example, from an Ebay seller), then I believe you could install just the button and re-program. However, since I couldn't find just the individual PSE button, I had to buy the entire switch assembly, which was about $150. If you buy the entire assembly, make sure the dealer uses it (rather than just the individual PSE button) because chances are your current assembly will have a little wear/tear on it, so the new assembly will at least look nicer.
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I bought the kit directly from Porsche and it came with just the button and the wiring, not the full console. They just put the button in the first open spot on the right side.
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To answer another question on this thread yes it does have all the PSE modes/functionality after the retfrofit. Also OP your price quote is right on around what my dealer charged me for labor/taxes ($1100 slightly less w/PCA discount on labor/parts since I ordered all of them thru them). As for PSE itself...i deferred the PSE swap muffler wise and had them put in a new Akrapovic Ti exhaust instead. Much better sounds and its glorious when you hit that button!
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Congrats! Looking forward to hearing your thoughts after the install. I'm really excited to do this mod to my C2S also.
Did you go to Rusnak in Pasadena or in Westlake? Thanks.
Did you go to Rusnak in Pasadena or in Westlake? Thanks.
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You will just need to have it programmed and then also buy additional parts to retrofit the non-PSE car to PSE which includes various clamps, cables, vacuum lines, etc and cost me about $675 total. If you have a non-S car it may be a bit more as I believe longer vacuum lines are needed and one or two different parts. As for exhaust itself, you can then as I alluded to add a PSE exhaust which can include different side exhausts and a different center exhaust (non S cars) and I have heard for some S cars (just the PSE center exhaust is needed since the side exhausts for the S car may not need to be replaced - check VIN w/dealer as some parts are similar for side exhausts I've heard on the S cars w/PSE). After you do the retrofit you can add however add any exhaust you want at that point. A lot have done AWE, some Cargraphic, and others Fabspeed or Kline, or as I did Akrapovic Ti. All is needed it so purchase your chosen exhaust. I got my Akrapovic Ti from TAG Motorsports (great guys) and the Akra fit perfectly. No issues on hooking it up after the PSE retrofit. It controls the valves now just as factory PSE does but sounds a whole lot better. My service mgr and te master tech and quite a few at the dealership were pleasantly surprised at the fit/finish/sound and said it was one of the best aftermarket exhausts they've done including sound. So its a pretty straight forward job if you want to do it!
Here’s one link or two regarding the PSE retrofit and adding the console button from those who’ve done it.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...ts-prices.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9310...-s-system.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9295...stall-gts.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9209...r-non-pse.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9093...s-non-pse.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/745584-pse-install.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8639...struction.html
Hope this helps...
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Hi guys, the deed was done this past Thursday. Everything went off without a hitch and am quite pleased with the results. Rusnak Porsche (Westlake) gave me a loaner - a '16 Hybrid Cayenne to take home overnight vice waiting around in Westlake which was quite convenient.
First a few pictures of my new CPO car with 13K miles. Since I technically haven't introduced myself to the class here when I moved from the 997.2 to this 991.1, and since I know it's not official without the photos....
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So, after three weeks of driving the 991.1, the only thing I was REALLY missing from my old 997.2 was the PSE. I DID kick around the idea of the full Akra Exhaust as I have this set up on my 335i...
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But $10K plus install for a car I really won't be tracking all that often seemed like a bit overkill. I was always happy with PSE on my 997.2, so I was comfortable with this plan for the 991.1
First before the overall impression, here is the equipment that was removed/replaced. Obviously as others have said, the interior buttons aren't individually swapped out. The entire panel is replaced which is of course why Sun Coast etc. want your VIN. I should have taken a photo of the other side of the center muffler as it was a lot cleaner looking...
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new tips...
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and to the sound...
Thoughts and impressions
1. Very glad I did this upgrade. I really can't imagine a Porsche without the noise to go with it.
2. The sound is quite different from PSE on a 997.2. Similar to my Akrapovic on my 335i with all the gurgle and farts than to the old PSE, but MUCH louder. You can hear in the video/audio when I switch off PSE about 3/4 through the clip. On my 997.2, I had PSE on all the time (no button), but I'm glad I did the full install here. Nice and calm through the neighborhood except when I would rather wake everyone up early. :-)
3. The response above 3000 RPM is VERY noticeable. It just makes you want to drive in Sport mode with PSE turned on...all the time. The sound is intoxicating.
4. The price out the door was reasonable. The dealership charged 5.5 hours of labor and prorated the cost of the kit so that my out the door price came to $3685 with all taxes included.
Well, enough for now. I'm glad to be a member of the 991 class, and look forward to contributing and being a semi-regular member of the forum. Over the six years of ownership of my 997.2, I did all the maintenance work except for the PSE fluid flush. I enjoy writing DIY's, so i'm sure I'll add some for the 991 when the time comes.
Hope you enjoyed the photos and sounds..
Regards, David
First a few pictures of my new CPO car with 13K miles. Since I technically haven't introduced myself to the class here when I moved from the 997.2 to this 991.1, and since I know it's not official without the photos....
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So, after three weeks of driving the 991.1, the only thing I was REALLY missing from my old 997.2 was the PSE. I DID kick around the idea of the full Akra Exhaust as I have this set up on my 335i...
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But $10K plus install for a car I really won't be tracking all that often seemed like a bit overkill. I was always happy with PSE on my 997.2, so I was comfortable with this plan for the 991.1
First before the overall impression, here is the equipment that was removed/replaced. Obviously as others have said, the interior buttons aren't individually swapped out. The entire panel is replaced which is of course why Sun Coast etc. want your VIN. I should have taken a photo of the other side of the center muffler as it was a lot cleaner looking...
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new tips...
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and to the sound...
Thoughts and impressions
1. Very glad I did this upgrade. I really can't imagine a Porsche without the noise to go with it.
2. The sound is quite different from PSE on a 997.2. Similar to my Akrapovic on my 335i with all the gurgle and farts than to the old PSE, but MUCH louder. You can hear in the video/audio when I switch off PSE about 3/4 through the clip. On my 997.2, I had PSE on all the time (no button), but I'm glad I did the full install here. Nice and calm through the neighborhood except when I would rather wake everyone up early. :-)
3. The response above 3000 RPM is VERY noticeable. It just makes you want to drive in Sport mode with PSE turned on...all the time. The sound is intoxicating.
4. The price out the door was reasonable. The dealership charged 5.5 hours of labor and prorated the cost of the kit so that my out the door price came to $3685 with all taxes included.
Well, enough for now. I'm glad to be a member of the 991 class, and look forward to contributing and being a semi-regular member of the forum. Over the six years of ownership of my 997.2, I did all the maintenance work except for the PSE fluid flush. I enjoy writing DIY's, so i'm sure I'll add some for the 991 when the time comes.
Hope you enjoyed the photos and sounds..
Regards, David
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Congrats...looks nice!
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Everyone, I'm excited to say that I've scheduled my appointment for my PSE retrofit at Porsche (Rusnak) Westlake on Thursday. Thanks to @Daberlin's help, I was also able to arrange a great price for the entire kit and install, and I can't wait. I'll report back my experience after everything is complete!
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Excellent. It's a great upgrade!
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Put the PSE on last week.
It's pretty cool.
$2200 cool? With no performance advantage? No. Would I retro fit another car after purchase? No. would I buy another Porsche without PSE already installed? No. glad I did it? The 12yo in me-yes. The cheap Scotsman- no.
I like it. I'm not unhappy nor dissatisfied just wish it added performance along with that sweet sound.
It's pretty cool.
$2200 cool? With no performance advantage? No. Would I retro fit another car after purchase? No. would I buy another Porsche without PSE already installed? No. glad I did it? The 12yo in me-yes. The cheap Scotsman- no.
I like it. I'm not unhappy nor dissatisfied just wish it added performance along with that sweet sound.
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Huh, I bought a 14k mile agate grey CPO 991.1 from Rusnak earlier this year and had the PSE installed afterwards too (by my local dealer Carslen)!