Manual 991 owners, Are there many of us?
11-11-2016, 09:56 PM
#211
Addict
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How much longer can these inane discussions go on? If an owner wants to believe a 991.1 GTS is a very special car, with a very special engine, with very special transmission, and countless other very special parts, who cares? Dare I mention that Porsche AG secretly built 7 of these cars for members of there executive board in appreciation for their leadership? And 2 remain undriven so as not to reduce their future value to the Porsche Museum?
There you have it, from my source deep in the test bays at Weissach.
There you have it, from my source deep in the test bays at Weissach.
11-11-2016, 10:34 PM
#212
Racer
11-12-2016, 09:49 AM
#213
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Seriously though, nice image of all the gages. I can't see all of mine while driving and now realize that apparently you need to have your eyes just below the steering wheel and only a few inches away in order to see the gages - not the best driving posture.
Your photo provides a nice reference.
11-13-2016, 03:08 PM
#214
Not to be Capt Buzzkill here but you're clearly exceeding the speed limit
Seriously though, nice image of all the gages. I can't see all of mine while driving and now realize that apparently you need to have your eyes just below the steering wheel and only a few inches away in order to see the gages - not the best driving posture. Your photo provides a nice reference.
Seriously though, nice image of all the gages. I can't see all of mine while driving and now realize that apparently you need to have your eyes just below the steering wheel and only a few inches away in order to see the gages - not the best driving posture.
Your photo provides a nice reference.
11-13-2016, 06:27 PM
#215
Burning Brakes
Porsche's pricing strategy got the best of me. While I wanted a manual, by the time I optioned it, it was so close to a turbo, which is PDK only, that I ended up with the turbo. If they make a GT3 with a stick, I may go for it.
11-13-2016, 06:39 PM
#217
Three Wheelin'
11-20-2016, 10:18 PM
#222
And since I haven't bestowed my own wisdom on this thread yet, here goes:
I am sampling PDK for the first time, had it for about 13 months.
I agree with those posts that argue MT is more engaging or more involving. Fortunately I have two other MTs also, so I am not without one altogether. But the (let's face it, antiquated) process of pushing the clutch, moving the mechanical lever, and letting the clutch out leads to a feeling of greater attachment to what's happening to the car.
I happen to have just finished journalling the days events and I did so with a 1929 Parker Duofold Pearl & Black fountain pen, one of perhaps a dozen (mostly modern) fountain pens I own. I enjoy the mechanical aspect of filling the pen from an inkwell, and the control required to lay down a line of ink of varying widths as required. Not everybody can do it out of the box, but by the same token it doesn't take much practice to get passably good at it. I don't look at it as an accomplishment, nor do I look down on somebody who can't or prefers not to bother. In fact, that person may be a decidedly more accomplished writer than I am. But I just enjoy the process, even though it slows me down.
Same for mechanical, hand-wound watches.
So back to transmissions. Why do I have a PDK? Simple: I've been continuously driving 4, 5, and 6 speed clutched manual sportscars, economy cars, sedans, trucks and Jeeps since 1980. I currently have two. In my book, it's crazy to not sample something as sublime as a PDK box when they've gotten as good as they have. And by "sample" I mean over a long enough period to let it get under my skin, one way or the other. It's not like I made some sort of decision that is irrevocable -- when I get done with this car I'll probably go back to MT, but I'm not sure at this point. I vacillate.
I drive the PDK in manual mode, with Sport or Sport+ turned on 98% of the time. I agree that shifting into D and leaving it isn't very fun (except when driving as close to 10/10ths as possible, where the "fun" is coming from other things than working a clutch. That's where the 2% or so of automatic use comes in.) So for all around town, interstate, and even most mountain driving I use PDK in manual. And I love it.
I am sampling PDK for the first time, had it for about 13 months.
I agree with those posts that argue MT is more engaging or more involving. Fortunately I have two other MTs also, so I am not without one altogether. But the (let's face it, antiquated) process of pushing the clutch, moving the mechanical lever, and letting the clutch out leads to a feeling of greater attachment to what's happening to the car.
I happen to have just finished journalling the days events and I did so with a 1929 Parker Duofold Pearl & Black fountain pen, one of perhaps a dozen (mostly modern) fountain pens I own. I enjoy the mechanical aspect of filling the pen from an inkwell, and the control required to lay down a line of ink of varying widths as required. Not everybody can do it out of the box, but by the same token it doesn't take much practice to get passably good at it. I don't look at it as an accomplishment, nor do I look down on somebody who can't or prefers not to bother. In fact, that person may be a decidedly more accomplished writer than I am. But I just enjoy the process, even though it slows me down.
Same for mechanical, hand-wound watches.
So back to transmissions. Why do I have a PDK? Simple: I've been continuously driving 4, 5, and 6 speed clutched manual sportscars, economy cars, sedans, trucks and Jeeps since 1980. I currently have two. In my book, it's crazy to not sample something as sublime as a PDK box when they've gotten as good as they have. And by "sample" I mean over a long enough period to let it get under my skin, one way or the other. It's not like I made some sort of decision that is irrevocable -- when I get done with this car I'll probably go back to MT, but I'm not sure at this point. I vacillate.
I drive the PDK in manual mode, with Sport or Sport+ turned on 98% of the time. I agree that shifting into D and leaving it isn't very fun (except when driving as close to 10/10ths as possible, where the "fun" is coming from other things than working a clutch. That's where the 2% or so of automatic use comes in.) So for all around town, interstate, and even most mountain driving I use PDK in manual. And I love it.
My wife has a Panamera S, PDK of course. I will say it's a blast to drive, the shifts are lightning fast, the torque of the V6 turbo is awesome, and when driven in manual mode, it's a lot of fun. Porsche has perfected it. But I'm definitely not ready to give up my 3 pedal 911.
I too love DIY tasks. I don't use a fountain pen, but routinely renovate my house myself, including removing and replacing toilets, kitchen cabinet renovations, wiring my house for video surveillance, etc. My family thinks I'm nuts, but I just like the projects. It keeps me engaged. I learned jazz and classical piano at 45, and I just ditched my electronic metronome for a wooden key wind unit from Wittner.
Sorry for the long response. I'm a manual transmission guy.
11-24-2016, 11:52 AM
#224
I only wanted a MT. It was on the short list for car requirements. I agree with a few prior posters - would not have gotten this car without and waited 5 months to get the car I wanted with this as the limiting factor. I remain 100% thrilled with that decision and recommend anyone on the fence to go MT!
11-24-2016, 10:20 PM
#225
Well said. I have a MT 991. Of all the cars I've owned, with the exception of my wife's cars, they have all been manual except one. That one was the BMW 335i, the perennial Car and Driver 10 best, awesome piece of machinery. Well, I couldn't wait to get rid of it. It was so boring I preferred my prior generation (manual) 323i to the 335i. I blame the automatic.
My wife has a Panamera S, PDK of course. I will say it's a blast to drive, the shifts are lightning fast, the torque of the V6 turbo is awesome, and when driven in manual mode, it's a lot of fun. Porsche has perfected it. But I'm definitely not ready to give up my 3 pedal 911.
I too love DIY tasks. I don't use a fountain pen, but routinely renovate my house myself, including removing and replacing toilets, kitchen cabinet renovations, wiring my house for video surveillance, etc. My family thinks I'm nuts, but I just like the projects. It keeps me engaged. I learned jazz and classical piano at 45, and I just ditched my electronic metronome for a wooden key wind unit from Wittner.
Sorry for the long response. I'm a manual transmission guy.
My wife has a Panamera S, PDK of course. I will say it's a blast to drive, the shifts are lightning fast, the torque of the V6 turbo is awesome, and when driven in manual mode, it's a lot of fun. Porsche has perfected it. But I'm definitely not ready to give up my 3 pedal 911.
I too love DIY tasks. I don't use a fountain pen, but routinely renovate my house myself, including removing and replacing toilets, kitchen cabinet renovations, wiring my house for video surveillance, etc. My family thinks I'm nuts, but I just like the projects. It keeps me engaged. I learned jazz and classical piano at 45, and I just ditched my electronic metronome for a wooden key wind unit from Wittner.
Sorry for the long response. I'm a manual transmission guy.
I too drive a manual