Who actually uses their PDK in manual mode
10-20-2018, 11:42 PM
#92
Burning Brakes
I do not know. I think it does change the shift points. It seems like it is not based on a previous longer-time history though, but rather on actual driving style and throttle position in recent minute(s). At least it feels this way to me.
10-21-2018, 01:22 AM
#93
Correct. For instance if you break really hard, when you get back on the throttle it will downshift lower than if you had breaked lightly. But then after a minute or two of non-aggressive driving it will go back.
10-31-2018, 07:58 AM
#94
i have a slightly different take. As a wheelchair user, I have no choice, I use the PDK with hand controls for the accelerator and brake. The PDK is amazing, and enables me to really enjoy the car in the way that I want. To me, PDK gives the flexibility to use the car in many different ways. My 911 (991.2 base) is my daily driver. I regularly drive 1000mile trips (in a day), for work, but also am fortunate to live in an area with many great roads and mountain passes. On the long journeys the car just cruises along with ACC set, and in full auto. I can relax into the trip, and listen to podcasts, music, radio through the Car Play. I never use the manual mode, but may flick down a gear or two or three, in preparation to overtake a truck or similar. Or sometimes I move the **** and select Sport, and let the car do that completely for me. If I am playing in the mountain passes, then I often use the paddles, to be in the gear that i want, at the place that I want, and really apply myself to the job. But then other times, I will leave it in Sport, and concentrate fully on my lines, and braking points. That for me is the brilliance of the PDK and the 911; it can be used in a myriad of ways, to suit your specific needs of that day / journey. Yes, prior to becoming a wheelchair user I drove and raced a variety of (mostly historic) cars (and bikes). As a young (immature?) person, I would deride old men with automatic gearboxes in their sports cars. Maybe I have grown up, or just realised that the PDK is NOT an automatic gearbox. If needed I can still decide which gear I will be in and when. The PDK gives me more control over the vehicle, not less. But the flexibility of the system allows me to drive the car in different ways. This is a true all round machine. It can be a real long distance cruiser, it can carve the mountain passes. it can just be a box to move in the traffic with everyone else. It is a pretty good load carrier too (2 wheelchair users + 2 wheelchairs + all their luggage isn't bad for any vehicle). I have yet to be convinced that a full manual gearbox would give any more control. As for pleasure, this car exceeds all my expectations, and is easily the most pleasurable / fun vehicle I have ever owned. The only changes I would want would be unlimited fuel, self cleaning paint, zero traffic or potholes, free tyre supplies...oh, and the child in me would still like to be able to see the engine... But realistically, there is nothing I would want to change about this car, it is just about perfect for me, my needs, and my wants. PDK is part of that package. As for the old chestnut,"real men only drive manual"? Complete BS. I could just as easily find people who say the same about non synchro gearboxes, where you have to heel and toe, or cross-ply tyres, where you have to be able to drift and slide, or even 2 wheels; motorbike friends refer to any car as a "cage" as they feel the protection of the car's body removes the operator too far from the "action". All BS. This car gives this person 100% satisfaction. I feel sorry for anyone that has not found this nirvana YMMV
10-31-2018, 11:40 AM
#95
Rennlist Member
i have a slightly different take. As a wheelchair user, I have no choice, I use the PDK with hand controls for the accelerator and brake. The PDK is amazing, and enables me to really enjoy the car in the way that I want. To me, PDK gives the flexibility to use the car in many different ways. My 911 (991.2 base) is my daily driver. I regularly drive 1000mile trips (in a day), for work, but also am fortunate to live in an area with many great roads and mountain passes. On the long journeys the car just cruises along with ACC set, and in full auto. I can relax into the trip, and listen to podcasts, music, radio through the Car Play. I never use the manual mode, but may flick down a gear or two or three, in preparation to overtake a truck or similar. Or sometimes I move the **** and select Sport, and let the car do that completely for me. If I am playing in the mountain passes, then I often use the paddles, to be in the gear that i want, at the place that I want, and really apply myself to the job. But then other times, I will leave it in Sport, and concentrate fully on my lines, and braking points. That for me is the brilliance of the PDK and the 911; it can be used in a myriad of ways, to suit your specific needs of that day / journey. Yes, prior to becoming a wheelchair user I drove and raced a variety of (mostly historic) cars (and bikes). As a young (immature?) person, I would deride old men with automatic gearboxes in their sports cars. Maybe I have grown up, or just realised that the PDK is NOT an automatic gearbox. If needed I can still decide which gear I will be in and when. The PDK gives me more control over the vehicle, not less. But the flexibility of the system allows me to drive the car in different ways. This is a true all round machine. It can be a real long distance cruiser, it can carve the mountain passes. it can just be a box to move in the traffic with everyone else. It is a pretty good load carrier too (2 wheelchair users + 2 wheelchairs + all their luggage isn't bad for any vehicle). I have yet to be convinced that a full manual gearbox would give any more control. As for pleasure, this car exceeds all my expectations, and is easily the most pleasurable / fun vehicle I have ever owned. The only changes I would want would be unlimited fuel, self cleaning paint, zero traffic or potholes, free tyre supplies...oh, and the child in me would still like to be able to see the engine... But realistically, there is nothing I would want to change about this car, it is just about perfect for me, my needs, and my wants. PDK is part of that package. As for the old chestnut,"real men only drive manual"? Complete BS. I could just as easily find people who say the same about non synchro gearboxes, where you have to heel and toe, or cross-ply tyres, where you have to be able to drift and slide, or even 2 wheels; motorbike friends refer to any car as a "cage" as they feel the protection of the car's body removes the operator too far from the "action". All BS. This car gives this person 100% satisfaction. I feel sorry for anyone that has not found this nirvana YMMV