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Old 06-22-2017, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
I would be perfectly fine being out of warranty. Some of these companies like Fidelity seem to have a pretty good reputation. Most of the time you'll pay more in the premium than you'll ever use. Better to self-insure in my opinion.

As far as goodwill repairs and being out of warranty, I know there have been a few ones cosmetic related that we've heard about. I would not say that it's very common and would never count on that at all.

Trust me, Porsche isn't that generous.
I know Fidelity and Zurich offer pretty good warranties, but they are expensive and the house always win in the end.

I was not indicating that Porsche will always cover an out-of-warranty 991, but they have based on posts here. Audi, on the other hand, will proactively try to void your warranty
Old 06-22-2017, 12:46 PM
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$75K 7400mi full leather 7spd ----55k off

Land Rover Fort Lauderdale
www.landroverftlauderdale.com

Division: PCNA
Commission #: 788115
Prod Month: 11/2012
VIN: WP0CB2A97DS155073
Price: $129,320.00 Exterior:
Black Interior: Black leather interior Warranty Start: November 20, 2013

Hood looks like it could be a bit rough.










Old 06-22-2017, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Fat Kid
Audi, on the other hand, will proactively try to void your warranty

Never had an Audi. What do they try and pull there?
Old 06-22-2017, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by squid42
Slowly running out of the "hot" zone.

I'm posting this as a reasonable vert. It is a base model, overall an expensive build with good money off. Reason for posting is very low miles. $7/mile off. Also one of the few RWD verts floating around.

Dealer looks meh/lazy. ****ty pictures. Supposed to be CPO. Might be worth liberating from them if it checks out and some money is being knocked off.

$84,972 @ 4,908 miles, down from $119,700 msrp

http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-custo...837860&url=usa

VIN: WP0CA2A90FS141330

4,908 miles, $119,700 msrp, $34,728 loss, 70.99%
$7.08/mile, mile factor 0.497/10k
$1,533.11/month(w), age 1.9 years (22 months), factor 0.834/year, 2,601 miles/year (warranty)
$1,251.55/month(p), age 2.3 years (27 months), factor 0.862/year, 2,123 miles/year (production)









The Agate Grey with Natural leather interior looks really nice, and not so common.

@squid42 is on a tear today! Thanks for all of your efforts!

Also, re post #11366 the new basic S that showed up today at Carmax in FL - $1,099 to transfer to CA! I note this because several days back we were discussing what it costs to transfer a car from Carmax a good distance.

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Old 06-22-2017, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by STG
Never had an Audi. What do they try and pull there?
Audi has a code, TD1, that is applied to "flagged" vehicles. ECU tunes are an easy TD1. They take it a step further and literally instruct techs to take photos of an aftermarket part installed on a car, and send them directly to Audi back in Germany.

Aftermarket intake or exhaust? There goes your powertrain warranty. Aftermarket wheels? No more warranty on wheel bearings, or suspension.

Good luck citing the Magnuson-Moss Act. Audi will just not cover the repair for free, and tell you to go pound sand if you do not like it.
Old 06-22-2017, 03:06 PM
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I think Porsche is more of the exception with not being aggressive in voiding segments of your warranty when aftermarket performance parts are installed... Can you imagine of all those GT4 gearbox failure guys had their warranty denied because they added suspension and engine performance tweaks on their cars and track them frequently? But that is *exactly* what most manufacturers would do.

With the new 'all turbo' sports car lineup, we might see a change in behavior from Porsche (much easier to tweak to failure-inducing levels), but I hope not.
Old 06-22-2017, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pfbz
I think Porsche is more of the exception with not being aggressive in voiding segments of your warranty when aftermarket performance parts are installed... Can you imagine of all those GT4 gearbox failure guys had their warranty denied because they added suspension and engine performance tweaks on their cars and track them frequently? But that is *exactly* what most manufacturers would do.

With the new 'all turbo' sports car lineup, we might see a change in behavior from Porsche (much easier to tweak to failure-inducing levels), but I hope not.
When I followed it BMW did that in a pretty reasonable way. Part had to actually affect something negatively, not just affect in any way. New wheels much heavier? Problem. Putting on lighter O.Z. wheels? No problem.

Added boost in a turbo engine generally does not threaten the primary mechanics of the engine (crank, valve train). That is because Turbo boost is only in effect when the cylinder is in the least vulnerable position (valves closed, connecting rods at 90 degrees).

The reason why you don't just add boost like a madman is that increased power at less than 100% efficiency always means more waste heat. The car is designed for a certain amount of cooling in a certain climate. If you drive with much more power you better do it in a colder than spec climate. Likewise, everything after the crankshaft reacts to the added torque, namely the transmission.

In any case, I really hate all this secrecy fuzz about the software in our cars. Not only are we not permitted to review Porsche's software for safety. Most aftermarket software should be a breeze to apply and unapply. Due to potential oversharing of single licenses it is usually a big deal instead, and people show up at the dealer with tune applied.

The former is the reason why most manufacturers are still chill even if you arrive with a tune. You won't crush the engine. If you have damage from overheating or your transmission gave up that is a different matter.
Old 06-22-2017, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by squid42
Slowly running out of the "hot" zone.

I'm posting this as a reasonable vert. It is a base model, overall an expensive build with good money off. Reason for posting is very low miles. $7/mile off. Also one of the few RWD verts floating around.

Dealer looks meh/lazy. ****ty pictures. Supposed to be CPO. Might be worth liberating from them if it checks out and some money is being knocked off.

$84,972 @ 4,908 miles, down from $119,700 msrp

http://locator.porsche.com/ipl-custo...837860&url=usa

VIN: WP0CA2A90FS141330

4,908 miles, $119,700 msrp, $34,728 loss, 70.99%
$7.08/mile, mile factor 0.497/10k
$1,533.11/month(w), age 1.9 years (22 months), factor 0.834/year, 2,601 miles/year (warranty)
$1,251.55/month(p), age 2.3 years (27 months), factor 0.862/year, 2,123 miles/year (production)









I'll be over at the dealer tomorrow if anybody needs me to take this one for a spin for you
Old 06-22-2017, 09:41 PM
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2012.5 C2S CAB with 23K miles and $58K off MSRP.

Have not see a history on it and no pics.

At a Honda dealer in GA. Anyone local??

WP0CB2A9XCS154501

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http://www.hondacarland.com/used/Por...c08b73d60a.htm
Old 06-22-2017, 09:51 PM
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Another well priced '12 S Coupe
Manual transmission
40k miles
Private seller
Per seller, car under Easycare warranty till 3/2019
MSRP $114,685
Asking- $66,900
42% off MSRP
WP0AB2A91CS121748
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ink=true&Log=0
Car is in Newberry, Florida

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Old 06-22-2017, 10:07 PM
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Refresher class:

Both interchangeable on Sport Design bumper.

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Old 06-22-2017, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jakeg
Another well priced '12 S Coupe
http://atcm.co/S2PVDP/1B71DB46
Car is in Newberry, Florida
Bad link...

I did find info from what looks like a previous sale of the same car?

http://www.foxmotorsports.com/index....details&id=122

^^^update: Looks like the above is the listing when the current owner bought the car at 670 miles back in 11/2012.

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Old 06-22-2017, 10:09 PM
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[QUOTE=pfbz;14274179]Bad link...

Fixed!
Old 06-22-2017, 10:11 PM
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Re: CarFax

I've noticed that once you have a link for one on a specific car, the link will always work and keep updating with new history.

Not sure if it always works, but I've noticed it does looking back at old listings.
Old 06-22-2017, 10:23 PM
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thx for updating link...

Looks like a nice car. Best sub $70K manual coupe S I've seen in a while.


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