dawgcatching

They haven't dropped much in the past 2 years. Maybe a few K a year. You can now get a low mile C2S with great options in the mid 60's (private party). 2 years ago, it would have been closer to 70k. That isn't much depreciation however!

BLAM

Just reduced the price of my 991.1 Carmine Red GTS with 9600 miles to $109,500. Car is like new. Find it in Vehicle marketplace and Autotrder.

Ksdaoski

06/18/15Motor Vehicle Dept., MD
TITLE
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
Title #46984451
Lien Reported05/02/17Porsche Cars North America, OWINGS MILLS MD
CERTIFIED AS PORSCHE APPROVED CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED VEHICLE05/26/17Porsche Cars North America, OWINGS MILLS MD
SOLD AS PORSCHE APPROVED CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED VEHICLE06/08/17Motor Vehicle Dept., PARKTON MD
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL06/08/17Motor Vehicle Dept., PARKTON MD
TITLE
Title #49273759
Lien Reported

raidersfan

What do you think this car is worth? 6,700 miles, aftermarket wheels. A solid 9.8/10 car, checked out via PPI, no warranty

Anand Sundaram

Hi All:
I am new to Rennlist and close to getting my first 911. There are 2 I am negotiating on. 1 is a 2013 911 C2, black on black with 34K miles. the asking is $52K, the other is 2012 991 C2 beige on blue with 44K asking $48K. The latter has an minor accident on its carfax. What do you think of the car prices, one better than the other, or both good/bad.

Looking for advise

Thanks

raidersfan

Can you post the build sheets? These cars are priced around the options as much as mileage and color. Also, dark blue-beige is a tough sell for a lot of people, so keep that in mind. And, get a good PPI on the one you choose!

Anand Sundaram

@raidersfan, thanks for the feedback. Also heard that the early 2012s had issues. What is PPI?
Both cars are pretty basic, with sunroofs, heated seats, PDK, & Nav. Only upgrades are 20" wheels on both

daberlin

Pre-Purchase Inspection

pfbz

1. I'd stay away from anything with an accident on the carfax unless you have documentation showing it was actually "minor", like before/after photos and repair invoices. Even then, you will always take a significant hit when you in turn go to sell it.

2. The few issues first year 991 cars had that I know of were some minor problems with "change over valves" (COV's are little electronically controlled vacuum switches that control things) and door panels that sometimes warped in very hot climates. COV problems have likely been addressed on most cars by now, and if not, its a pretty easy fix. Warped door panels are easy to spot but expensive to fix if not under warranty... Again, you'd know it if a car has the issue.

3. The build sheets are important because many of use feel that there are some fairly undesirable build combinations out there. Perhaps the biggest one is a PDK car without Sport Chrono option. Nobody really cares about the extra little stopwatch dial on the dash with Sport Chrono, but many (most?) of us feel that no Sport+ mode for the PDK (which you only get when you order Sport Chrono) is a deal-breaker.

4. For determining fair price, my top three factors are condition, condition, condition. Mileage alone doesn't mean squat... I've seen 60K mile cars that are in showroom condition and 20K mile cars that I wouldn't even consider purchasing they were so poorly cared for.

If it is clean, in superb condition, fully serviced, and correctly optioned, you can live without the extra S horsepower, and if you like black over black, than car #1 might be worth considering.

MaddMike

Found this on Carmax's site. I'm usually scared of them but I know some people here have gotten decent deals.

It seems pretty well optioned and it is a manual. The mileage is a bit high though.

Thoughts? Anyone know this car?

https://www.carmax.com/car/14969852

Edit: Just looked at the Carfax, five owners and lease/rental history. I think I'll pass.

PasPar2

Lease, not a rental. looks like 2 owners. car is CPO and likely still is. Definitely worth a look.

MaddMike

You lost me. It looks like it was leased originally in NJ. Are you saying that the original owner registered it in both NJ and FL? Either way, a bit odd.

It was then sold to a new owner in FL and it looks like a second and third new owner in FL unless that owner simply refinanced two times.

Also, it was CPO in 6/30/15. CPOs last two years unless they are on top of the original warranty so the CPO would have expired a year ago.

saeyedoc

CPO doesn't carry when car is sold by a non Porsche dealer anyway.

MaddMike

I went ahead and transferred it because it was free but I am cautious.

If it checks out it seems priced pretty well for a DD.

CaymanSinAR

I have not looked at any of this but can say Carfax can do some wonky stuff regarding owners. Particularly when people move. Carfax shows me as the fourth owner of my Miata. I'm the third. The original owner bought it when he lived in Florida. When he moved to Virginia and registered it there Carfax listed him as the second owner. He sold it to the guy I bought it from.