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Hi:
i have a leased 2015 911 C4S. Equiped with most performance options but not leather. List was about $133k. It’s dark blue, PDK and is wrapped in front, doors and halfway up the rear quarter panel. Car is pretty perfect with 21,000 miles. Runs perfectly.
My lease has a $75k buyout. What do these sell for in the current market? Appreciate your thoughts. Thanks. popspin
ps: STG - I tried messaging you but it seems you have shut off your receipt of PM’s.
If you really like your C4S, would like to keep it, and you can buy it out soon, IMO $75k is a great price! But if it's a year or two b4 you can exercise that $75k option, I would wait b4 expressing my opinion.
If lease buyout is $75K, it's a very good deal in my opinion especially if you like the car. Maybe they can add a CPO to it for $3K which would be a nice bonus.
Not taking PM's anymore as noted a few posts above.
I let the one I was just looking at go. It was a 991.2. Great car, great build (for me, definitely not for everyone), great price, fresh CPO. The primary thing that held me back was the color, black! Just nabbed by someone else and I'm having a bit of non-buyer remorse?
On my silver car, I often get a bit lazy and skip the quick detailer and just drive the thing dirty. Even when fairly filthy, silver still looks good! If the car I had my eye on was any shade of silver, gray, or blue, it would be in my garage right now. I know, picky, picky, picky. But I still have an absolute blast every time I take out the current Turbo which lets me be picky!
Nice way to skate around a $$
My brain is a bit more geared towards 991.2 pricing right now, and I'm honestly having a tough time reconciling .1 pricing being so close to .2 pricing so I just sort of kept my mouth shut...
Deep down I'm definitely a turbo guy so the all-turbo lineup of the 991.2 is something I view as a huge plus rather than a minus, but I realize (and current pricing confirms) that that is currently a minority opinion!
I have a suspicion that now that the .2 ECU's have been cracked by tuners and that +80 to +100HP and gobs more torque can be unleashed with nothing more than a software tweak (which essentially puts a .2 base at a performance level higher than a .1 GTS), there might be a bit more enthusiasm in the used .2 marketplace. I just hope not too quickly, as I still have to find my perfect car.
pfbz, I think that they overall 911 buyer pool being older and as not as mod crazy, won't be ones to embrace these ECU tunes to the degree it will have any impact on prices. How many ECU tunes actually get done? Less than 5% of all 911's I'm sure. Many guys aren't comfortable messing with the factory ECU and potential warranty issues.
The appeal to these cars goes far beyond and deeper than just straight line stop light drag races.
Please update any .2 info and findings on the .2 4SALE thread though. I haven't kept up on .2 pricing myself.
pfbz, I think that they overall 911 buyer pool being older and as not as mod crazy, won't be ones to embrace these ECU tunes to the degree it will have any impact on prices.
The appeal to these cars goes far beyond and deeper than just straight line stop light drag races.
While I wholeheartedly agree with this statement, I'm a young 991.1 owner and definitely curious about getting into a .2 and cracking the ECU. My wife has had a couple turbo bimmers in recent years, and I have resisted the urge to tune, but I am yet to own a turbo car myself.
The tune or not to tune subject can go on forever as it has on the main boards.
My point is that it has a low acceptance rate and will have no value on pre-owned pricing or demand. If anything, a tuned car has a negative effect on its own individual resale. I wouldn't touch one myself.
The tune or not to tune subject can go on forever as it has on the main boards.
My point is that it has a low acceptance rate and will have no value on pre-owned pricing or demand. If anything, a tuned car has a negative effect on its own individual resale. I wouldn't touch one myself.
Yeah I got your point. I too wouldn't expect droves of people to run out shopping preowned .2s and having any impact on values simply due to ECU's being cracked.
pfbz, I think that they overall 911 buyer pool being older and as not as mod crazy, won't be ones to embrace these ECU tunes to the degree it will have any impact on prices. How many ECU tunes actually get done? Less than 5% of all 911's I'm sure. Many guys aren't comfortable messing with the factory ECU and potential warranty issues.
I think your probably right... For a good portion, even the idea of swapping a steering wheel would be far beyond their comfort level, let alone ecu tuning, especially on a in-warranty car in the $80K-$100K range.
Usually the first thing I do personally when I get a car is start taking it apart and making it just a bit "better" (in my own subjective opinion of course), and wouldn't hesitate to ECU tune all that much more than I would hesitate to change out orange marker lamps or hard-wire a radar detector.
OK, now I'm off to find a HFS car to post up to make amens for getting us off topic!
Super nice build, white over gray, sport exhaust, sport chrono, 18-way seats, SPASM, Burmester, PDK with sport design paddle shift steering wheel, etc.
Hi:
i have a leased 2015 911 C4S. Equiped with most performance options but not leather. List was about $133k. It’s dark blue, PDK and is wrapped in front, doors and halfway up the rear quarter panel. Car is pretty perfect with 21,000 miles. Runs perfectly.
My lease has a $75k buyout. What do these sell for in the current market?
Appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks.
popspin
ps: STG - I tried messaging you but it seems you have shut off your receipt of PM’s.
At ~ 56% of MSRP seems like a pretty good deal. Chances are dealer would be asking mid to high 80s selling that car, though likely with CPO. Nothing like knowing the car you buy. GL!
Super nice build, white over gray, sport exhaust, sport chrono, 18-way seats, SPASM, Burmester, PDK with sport design paddle shift steering wheel, etc.
Nice find!
Call Frank Tucci there. Tell him to give you the HFS hook up. He's a HFS friend
07-31-2018, 10:25 PM
