911 going all turbo?
02-13-2015, 10:58 PM
#316
Race Director
Turbos -> Hybrid -> Full Electric -> Driverless ->
Still too many emissions. Next ....
Horse & Buggy -> Bicycle -> Walking -> Living in caves and hunting by bow & arrow
02-17-2015, 05:17 PM
#317
Banned
Full electric is probably the only solution. Power companies have a choice whether to use clean energy, oil or gas. Something the average consumer has no power over. In the future gasoline motors will probably be a luxury item and with most manufacturers caving with pressure. The older remnants will become valuable to those seeking a trip down memory lane.
02-17-2015, 05:23 PM
#318
The holy grail is getting a battery that has a charge that lasts a lot longer with no deterioration. If they could make batteries that lasted 1,000 miles, every single car would go full electric. Hell I'd even buy one. In a few 100 years, the internal combustion engine is going to be looked at the same way as we look at horses.
Unrelated to Porsches, but the one place you can't go electric is with airplanes. Nothing has the weight to energy ratio of fossil fuels. Batteries will always be too heavy for planes for the amount of energy they return.
Unrelated to Porsches, but the one place you can't go electric is with airplanes. Nothing has the weight to energy ratio of fossil fuels. Batteries will always be too heavy for planes for the amount of energy they return.
02-17-2015, 06:03 PM
#319
Race Car
The holy grail is getting a battery that has a charge that lasts a lot longer with no deterioration. If they could make batteries that lasted 1,000 miles, every single car would go full electric. Hell I'd even buy one. In a few 100 years, the internal combustion engine is going to be looked at the same way as we look at horses.
Unrelated to Porsches, but the one place you can't go electric is with airplanes. Nothing has the weight to energy ratio of fossil fuels. Batteries will always be too heavy for planes for the amount of energy they return.
Unrelated to Porsches, but the one place you can't go electric is with airplanes. Nothing has the weight to energy ratio of fossil fuels. Batteries will always be too heavy for planes for the amount of energy they return.
02-21-2015, 03:19 PM
#320
Race Director
02-21-2015, 03:31 PM
#321
Drifting
^^ From the article: "Aside from the minor visual tweaks, the facelifted 911 range could drop all the naturally aspirated engines, with the exception of the GT3 and GT3 RS models. Company’s product chief Wolfgang Hatz has already said this will eventually happen, but he didn’t specify an exact timetable so they might decide to wait until the next-gen likely due around 2018."
So the three horizontal vents behind where the intercoolers would be, just like on all Turbo models since 2000, are just there as camo? To make people think they'll have turbos when in fact they won't?
So the three horizontal vents behind where the intercoolers would be, just like on all Turbo models since 2000, are just there as camo? To make people think they'll have turbos when in fact they won't?
02-21-2015, 03:45 PM
#323
Race Director
^^ From the article: "Aside from the minor visual tweaks, the facelifted 911 range could drop all the naturally aspirated engines, with the exception of the GT3 and GT3 RS models. Company’s product chief Wolfgang Hatz has already said this will eventually happen, but he didn’t specify an exact timetable so they might decide to wait until the next-gen likely due around 2018." So the three horizontal vents behind where the intercoolers would be, just like on all Turbo models since 2000, are just there as camo? To make people think they'll have turbos when in fact they won't?
They are already testing them already whether it happens later this year or 2018.
I just find it hard to believe they'd have everything ironed out, tested, and have turbo engines ready the second half this year. Seeing this is such a huge change, I would have thought you'd be seeing these test mules about 1.5-2 years ago.
Maybe they'll just start with the base Carerra for now?
Either way, they will be on the way. That's a given.
02-21-2015, 03:53 PM
#324
Rennlist Member
Wait so they all won't be turbo for 2016??
That exhaust setup and lower bumper/diffuser looks like what they've done for the 488 GTB, it messes up the lines a bit and is definitely different, but in a kinda good way.
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That exhaust setup and lower bumper/diffuser looks like what they've done for the 488 GTB, it messes up the lines a bit and is definitely different, but in a kinda good way.
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02-21-2015, 03:56 PM
#325
Race Director
02-21-2015, 03:58 PM
#326
Rennlist Member
02-21-2015, 04:09 PM
#327
Drifting
The cars you see are turbo engines most likely.
They are already testing them already whether it happens later this year or 2018.
I just find it hard to believe they'd have everything ironed out, tested, and have turbo engines ready the second half this year. Seeing this is such a huge change, I would have thought you'd be seeing these test mules about 1.5-2 years ago.
Maybe they'll just start with the base Carerra for now?
Either way, they will be on the way. That's a given.
They are already testing them already whether it happens later this year or 2018.
I just find it hard to believe they'd have everything ironed out, tested, and have turbo engines ready the second half this year. Seeing this is such a huge change, I would have thought you'd be seeing these test mules about 1.5-2 years ago.
Maybe they'll just start with the base Carerra for now?
Either way, they will be on the way. That's a given.
02-21-2015, 04:18 PM
#328
Race Director
Now that I think about it, I think it will be 2016.
They did the turbos with the mid cycle facelift Cayenne and Panamera recently. Macan already is too.
02-21-2015, 04:45 PM
#329
Drifting
Don't get me wrong -- it's what I believe, but the packaging is what's important!
02-21-2015, 04:56 PM
#330
Drifting
Yeah agreed, it is coming with the 991.2 refresh... there have been spy shots of the turbo'd cars out there since late 2013 so that aligns with the production date of later this year.