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Old 01-30-2015, 02:58 PM
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With all due respect, the Mezger M64-derived engine in question doesn't have anything like the separate piston assembly of the air-cooled cars (and old VWs.)
True - thanks for the correction.
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Originally Posted by GrantG
If someone was previously in the market for a Turbo, it is a great turn of events (most of the character and performance for much less money). But for NA adherents, hopefully they will keep the GT3 and possibly the GTS as their NA stalwarts.
On that note, I wonder how long they'll take orders for GTS. Maybe into the early production of 991.2?
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Originally Posted by shaytun
On that note, I wonder how long they'll take orders for GTS. Maybe into the early production of 991.2?
My salesman says March at the latest (his speculation, but he's been doing this a long time at Porsche); and we all know, they could stop taking orders at any time. It's gotten me a little edgy. I need to work out my color choices. Just can't get there yet.
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So no '16 GTS? Odd that targa GTS is '16 and they wouldn't want to sell any coupes/cabrios, etc for the model year.
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Originally Posted by Dude174
So no '16 GTS? Odd that targa GTS is '16 and they wouldn't want to sell any coupes/cabrios, etc for the model year.
Well, I was specifically asking about ordering for myself, and he knows I'm wanting a C2 Coupe; so he could have just been answering that question. Or he could be wrong. But he was adamant that NA Carreras end in 2015. (He may be wrong -- doubtful -- but he's not trying to "push me into a car right now" or anything. Been dealing with him since the 986 years. He's a "long term relationship" guy.)
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991.2 C2 2.7L TT Flat-6 380hp

991.2 C2S 3.0L TT Flat-6 420hp

982 (Boxster/Cayman) 2.0 TT Flat-4 +25hp

982 (Boxster S/Cayman S) 2.5 TT Flat-4 +25hp
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Originally Posted by hawc
991.2 C2 2.7L TT Flat-6 380hp

991.2 C2S 3.0L TT Flat-6 420hp

982 (Boxster/Cayman) 2.0 TT Flat-4 +25hp

982 (Boxster S/Cayman S) 2.5 TT Flat-4 +25hp
LOL
You are neutering the Boxter/Cayman.
Leave them alone ; )

I think base Carrera should be a bargian lightweight 380HP Turbo 4 with stellar handling dynamics.
It will bring lots of buyers in.

Also just one displacement of 6.
Power can be adjusted with engine mapping.

Turbo, of course, should stay 3.8L.
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Originally Posted by lunarx

LOL
You are neutering the Boxter/Cayman.
Leave them alone ; )

I think base Carrera should be a bargian lightweight 380HP Turbo 4 with stellar handling dynamics.
It will bring lots of buyers in.

Also just one displacement of 6.
Power can be adjusted with engine mapping.

Turbo, of course, should stay 3.8L.
Who would spend that kind of money on a four cylinder? Unless they drop the price dramatically.
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Lotus esprit back in the day
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Originally Posted by hawc
991.2 C2 2.7L TT Flat-6 380hp

991.2 C2S 3.0L TT Flat-6 420hp
Those numbers are a little surprising. The current S power bonus over the Carrera is 14.3% and they would be shrinking that to 10.5%

Maybe there is a brief overboost function in the S or something...
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Originally Posted by jimbo1111
Who would spend that kind of money on a four cylinder? Unless they drop the price dramatically.
Not that many people buy the Base now, using the same value logic.
At least this lets them show what a 4 can do and change some minds about the future of engines.

If its 150lb lighter, it could post some great performance and excellent gas mileage.
Thats a win-win for many new age buyers.
Why not cast a wider net?

Otherwise, having a base model is a complete waste of effort.
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Originally Posted by lunarx
Not that many people buy the Base now, using the same value logic.
At least this lets them show what a 4 can do and change some minds about the future of engines.

If its 150lb lighter, it could post some great performance and excellent gas mileage.
Thats a win-win for many new age buyers.
Why not cast a wider net?

Otherwise, having a base model is a complete waste of effort.
My feeling is that they will drop one of them. Five turbo configurations doesn't sound logical on the same chassis.
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Originally Posted by jimbo1111
My feeling is that they will drop one of them. Five turbo configurations doesn't sound logical on the same chassis.
I tend to agree.
However, would the following interest you;

9K RPM, 400HP, Turbo 4.
Race Program block & internals.
Reduced weight.
Stellar handling.
40MPG highway cruising.
$20K less than S.

I might fall for it in 2018.
Hopefully, keeping my S till then.
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Originally Posted by lunarx
I tend to agree.
However, would the following interest you;

9K RPM, 400HP, Turbo 4.
Race Program block & internals.
Reduced weight.
Stellar handling.
40MPG highway cruising.
$20K less than S.

I might fall for it in 2018.
Hopefully, keeping my S till then.
Sounds like they are reintroducing a 944 turbo. May as well put the motor up front and call it a day. I wouldn't be against it if the price was substantially lower.


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