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Old 08-07-2014, 05:18 AM
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This has to be a record, and before I get to the funny stuff (or stupid however you look at it) this is a disturbing trend I am seeing with Porsche and I dont know if its a concerted effort to raise prices or what. But here is a TurboS for a quarter of a MILLION dollars!!!???? What is Porsche doing? There is a significant price increase up and down the line. Targas are $140K to start!!!
In 2009 I bought my new Carrera S for $78,000 with incentives and discount.
5 years later the prices are around 15% more on some models and ALOT More on others. And its one thing to have some models like the Turbo S be a QUARTER of a million dollars but its another to have 7 TurboS's out of 16 vehicles on a small dealers lot! What is that all about. I pulled up Freemont Porsche 7 of 16 911s are Turbo S's 40% of their inventory are TurboS's Or close to $200,000 911s I pulled up Autogallery they have 24 TurboS's out of 125. In my town 35 % of the people who live and work here didnt get 100% increases in salary that I know of. Thats what I figure I would have to buy a $241,000 911, and alittle more to pay for the divorce! Where did all this money come from that Porsche decides to convert their inventory to $200,000 cars? Are they trying to shed the reliable regular successful man's sports car to Donald Trumps Daily Driver?
Bakersfield has like 5 911s and ONE of them is a $180K Turbo S. They DONT have a GT3 but they sure as hell have a Turbo S.
I would bet you that the profit margin on those cars is the biggest they have.
The car now has the same motor as a regular 911 but with blowers, so no more Metzger motors, or the hassle of putting those together.
To me its a disturbing trend. Prices are SHOOTING up with Porsches and I can see in the near future where the normal 911 driver is going to be looking at Caymans, then WRX's. WHo is going to buy all these 250K TurboS. Its sure not some kind of special car anymore.
I never did get to the funny stuff because I got to depressed.
Old 08-07-2014, 06:49 AM
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Let it all out Old Man. I see your gripe and actually agree with your disdain for these price hikes. I've seen a lot of car companies do this when releasing a new car and after it's first year out, reassessing what it should be priced at...i.e. the Nissan GT-R in it's first year out was a $72K car. Nissan realized they had underpriced the car given it's performance and the ridiculous 20K dealer-markups which were still moving this car...it's now become a 98K car to start with.

As for the Turbo S; I'm not sure what Porsche is seeing that we aren't.
Old 08-07-2014, 08:12 AM
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Automobile mag ran an article in some hypothetical 4 banger 2 seater pcar that they were predicting would be the new entry level porsche starting at around 45k.

Maybe they will just widen their product line? But yeah 125k for a minimally optioned c2s is getting up there.
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Come North of the border to see some wicked pricing. + 13% above your pricing and add another 13% tax. So in order to buy a new Turbo S loaded, gotta sell your house and donate your first born.
Old 08-07-2014, 09:20 AM
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lol, i would be thankful for how good you have it, 240k gets you a carrera s in most of the rest of the world, lol americans ha ha

there is about 2 billion people on this planet who would pay 240k for a turbo s tomorrow if they could
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Sell a kidney anyone?
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All of the german car manufacturers are making their flagship models larger and more powerful versions.
Then at some point they slot a car just below it that is just about the same size that the original model use to be. The 3series BMW is a good example it is larger than it used to be so they slot a 2 series just below it. Of course the price keeps climbing. Maybe Porsche is anticipating the average 911 owner to be older with a larger disposable income. Time will tell if the cayman keep getting bigger and they slot something smaller beneath it.

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Old 08-07-2014, 11:01 AM
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In all my days I have seen only one Porsche dealer go broke. It was a new dealership in Annapolis and his allotment of 911's was small, but they swamped him with the new 924's. The 911's sold in a few months but the 924's just sat there. The floor plan killed him.
Dealers buy what they think they can sell. You can spend north off 200K on a Cayanne Turbo S. If you're a 2 & 20 guy running a moderate sized hedge fund, 250K for a car is like picking up the dinner check.
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And so the $130K GT3 again comes off as a bargain, even with the rear-mounted BBQ feature.
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I bet before long there will be a 2.0 Turbo 911 in the future. That would be a hoot.

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no kidding eh!

Originally Posted by Mumbles
Come North of the border to see some wicked pricing. + 13% above your pricing and add another 13% tax. So in order to buy a new Turbo S loaded, gotta sell your house and donate your first born.
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Pickup trucks routinely go over $50K now. My wife paid $19/pound for rib steaks the other day.
The Fed printed a lot of money with zero backing.
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Originally Posted by Keadog
Pickup trucks routinely go over $50K now. My wife paid $19/pound for rib steaks the other day.
The Fed printed a lot of money with zero backing.
Bingo, fiat currency... Stocks aren't up, housing isn't up, gold isn't up - currency is down and has been since cutting off the gold standard. To add insult to injury, you get taxed on "gains" that are a result of that dropping currency value, NOT increased value of your assets. Keep it in cash, it just gets devalued directly by the Fed. And let's make sure salaries don't keep pace and push economic policies designed to aggregate more wealth in fewer hands and undercut wages for the lower & middle classes. Hmm, sounds like a great plan overall. (To be clear, this isn't an issue with just one party either, so not looking for a political discussion... Blame Obama. Blame Bush. Blame both, frankly.)

In terms of prices I suspect the base/S are possibly below where they were in real terms some years back, Turbo probably more in line with real value of the $.
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Originally Posted by OldGuy
This has to be a record 2014 TurboS $241,000
No. That is a high MSRP for regular Porsche model in the US...but not as high as this one at $246,685! It's a PTS 'Viper Green' 2014 911 Turbo S Cabriolet.

To be fair, this is the demo of PCNA's 'Porsche Exclusive' on the West Coast. So it's meant to show all the options possible so that prospective buyers and/or P-dealers can see them on an actual production vehicle.

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Originally Posted by solomonschris
In all my days I have seen only one Porsche dealer go broke. It was a new dealership in Annapolis and his allotment of 911's was small, but they swamped him with the new 924's. The 911's sold in a few months but the 924's just sat there. The floor plan killed him.
Dealers buy what they think they can sell. You can spend north off 200K on a Cayanne Turbo S. If you're a 2 & 20 guy running a moderate sized hedge fund, 250K for a car is like picking up the dinner check.
Just noticed your sig block.

You owned and sold three 993s! Wow. Kudos to you, my friend.


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