PDCC: yes or no?
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+1. Well put Cogito.
PDCC certainly provides the best of both worlds. It virtually eliminates roll during spirited driving or on track yet provides a very comfortable and compliant ride for daily driving in "limo mode".
I have PASM plus PDCC. SPASM plus PDCC provides a significantly firmer ride for daily driving plus the lower stance which some will prefer. It is a matter of speculation what the difference in performance is between a PASM PDCC car and a SPASM no PDCC car. For most of us other than very experienced track orientated drivers I suspect very little!
I have driven C2s with and without PDCC and the improvement in comfort in daily driving is very significant. Obviously the feel of the car boils down to personal preference but if ordering again I would definitely specify PDCC for this reason if nothing else.
PDCC certainly provides the best of both worlds. It virtually eliminates roll during spirited driving or on track yet provides a very comfortable and compliant ride for daily driving in "limo mode".
I have PASM plus PDCC. SPASM plus PDCC provides a significantly firmer ride for daily driving plus the lower stance which some will prefer. It is a matter of speculation what the difference in performance is between a PASM PDCC car and a SPASM no PDCC car. For most of us other than very experienced track orientated drivers I suspect very little!
I have driven C2s with and without PDCC and the improvement in comfort in daily driving is very significant. Obviously the feel of the car boils down to personal preference but if ordering again I would definitely specify PDCC for this reason if nothing else.
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+1. Well put Cogito.
PDCC certainly provides the best of both worlds. It virtually eliminates roll during spirited driving or on track yet provides a very comfortable and compliant ride for daily driving in "limo mode".
I have PASM plus PDCC. SPASM plus PDCC provides a significantly firmer ride for daily driving plus the lower stance which some will prefer. It is a matter of speculation what the difference in performance is between a PASM PDCC car and a SPASM no PDCC car. For most of us other than very experienced track orientated drivers I suspect very little!
I have driven C2s with and without PDCC and the improvement in comfort in daily driving is very significant. Obviously the feel of the car boils down to personal preference but if ordering again I would definitely specify PDCC for this reason if nothing else.
PDCC certainly provides the best of both worlds. It virtually eliminates roll during spirited driving or on track yet provides a very comfortable and compliant ride for daily driving in "limo mode".
I have PASM plus PDCC. SPASM plus PDCC provides a significantly firmer ride for daily driving plus the lower stance which some will prefer. It is a matter of speculation what the difference in performance is between a PASM PDCC car and a SPASM no PDCC car. For most of us other than very experienced track orientated drivers I suspect very little!
I have driven C2s with and without PDCC and the improvement in comfort in daily driving is very significant. Obviously the feel of the car boils down to personal preference but if ordering again I would definitely specify PDCC for this reason if nothing else.
Last edited by Cogito_Ergo_Zoom; 04-29-2013 at 02:58 PM.
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It tells you Porsche is really good at understanding its various customer segments. Turbo buyers, in general, are not wannabe racers that will tolerate a car that scrapes the front-end and bounces over every bump in the road. They want a prestige car that goes like stink, especially in a straight line, looks good, and gets them them there comfortably. PDCC helps aid this mission.
Preuninger said since the GT3 already had stiff springs and a big anti-roll bar it wasn't necessary. GT3 buyers will tolerate a filling loosening ride because of the handling advantage trade-off and is part of the "I'm driving a racecar for the street " experience. I think the truth is he knew he was already forcing a lot of new tech on the GT3 demo and that might have been the bridge too far.
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#143
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The rear wheel steering is what I find weird in this context. Not doubting that it works, or that the 911 suspension has in fact passively been doing this since forever. But personally I am less technophobic about my varying rollbar actuators than I would be with RWS (right or wrong). Not to join the anti-modernization chorus, but the GT3 is an odd place to introduce this on IMO. On the Turbos, yes.
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The rear wheel steering is what I find weird in this context. Not doubting that it works, or that the 911 suspension has in fact passively been doing this since forever. But personally I am less technophobic about my varying rollbar actuators than I would be with RWS (right or wrong). Not to join the anti-modernization chorus, but the GT3 is an odd place to introduce this on IMO. On the Turbos, yes.
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I have Sport PASM with PDCC, PDK, and mostly drive in manual, Sport Plus mode and tires at comfort level, which is the same as minimum load.
Very comfortable over bumps but flat as a pancake when pushing hard.
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Thanks guys. I didn't think so, but I was curious because several times in Porsche literature they've shown a generic photo of the buttons on the console when discussing PDCC. I keep thinking "What am I not seeing here?" I guess they just wanted a picture of 'something'.