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Old 07-27-2023, 11:17 AM
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Delivered (in UK) and now fitted!





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That looks amazing! Perfect colour for your car.
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Delivered (in UK) and now fitted!

Damn those look fantastic! RL and its members come through again with draining my wallet.

Are those fitted with or without spacers?
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Old 07-27-2023, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by koala
That looks amazing! Perfect colour for your car.
Thank you!
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Damn those look fantastic! RL and its members come through again with draining my wallet.

Are those fitted with or without spacers?
Thanks, Tim.

I’ve kept my existing 7mm spacers on there for now.
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Old 07-27-2023, 06:35 PM
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PAPorscheGuy-Is your color Anthracite for Brushed Clear?
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Originally Posted by Wing Commander
Delivered (in UK) and now fitted!
These look great—dig the monochrome center caps and the gray w/Racing Yellow.

Been saving some pics of VS-5RS wheels on my Brewster Green Carrera for another post, and still playing with finishes, but this is Motorsport Gold on one side and custom matched to the factory silver on my old GT4 wheels on the other. These are mounted on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and fitted with no spacers.







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Originally Posted by stout
These look great—dig the monochrome center caps and the gray w/Racing Yellow.

Been saving some pics of VS-5RS wheels on my Brewster Green Carrera for another post, and still playing with finishes, but this is Motorsport Gold on one side and custom matched to the factory silver on my old GT4 wheels on the other. These are mounted on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and fitted with no spacers.





Thanks, Pete!

Great photos of yours! Can’t quite decide which colour I like best, but both look good.

The jury is out as to whether I keep my 7mm spacers on...

I was initially disappointed that I couldn’t get the brushed clear, but now they’re on, the anthracite is really growing on me.
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Originally Posted by Wing Commander
Thanks, Tim.

I’ve kept my existing 7mm spacers on there for now.
Originally Posted by stout
These look great—dig the monochrome center caps and the gray w/Racing Yellow.

Been saving some pics of VS-5RS wheels on my Brewster Green Carrera for another post, and still playing with finishes, but this is Motorsport Gold on one side and custom matched to the factory silver on my old GT4 wheels on the other. These are mounted on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and fitted with no spacers.


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Thanks, Pete!

Great photos of yours! Can’t quite decide which colour I like best, but both look good.

The jury is out as to whether I keep my 7mm spacers on...

I was initially disappointed that I couldn’t get the brushed clear, but now they’re on, the anthracite is really growing on me.
It's amazing how millimeter changes dial in the aesthetics. Personally, I think these wheels nail it without spacers. The 1/2"' increase in front width and adjusted offset along with the slightly more aggressive than stock offset of the rear give the car that "just right" flush fitment. Both Pete and Simon have lowered ride height as well which, with this wheel fitment, gives the NB 991.2 a stance and overall "feel" highly reminiscent of the 991.2 GT3 Touring, 991.1 R, and, going much further back, the 964RS.

As I'm leaning more and more to keeping my 991.2 T rather than swapping for the 992 version, tweaking the car slightly via ride height adjustment (leaning towards the KW HAS setup unless there are better options) and these wheels could further cement the car's status as "my perfect 911". I've never been a "black wheels" kind of guy but the anthracite finish seems to be very close to the Titanium Grey used by Porsche on the T's factory fitment wheels. The Jet Black Metallic with grey accents is another subtlety that just works for me.


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Old 07-28-2023, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stout
These look great—dig the monochrome center caps and the gray w/Racing Yellow.

Been saving some pics of VS-5RS wheels on my Brewster Green Carrera for another post, and still playing with finishes, but this is Motorsport Gold on one side and custom matched to the factory silver on my old GT4 wheels on the other. These are mounted on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and fitted with no spacers.

I'm not ordinarily a huge gold wheel fan but this looks superb. The light champagne gold is so classy. Fitment is bang on as well. You've nailed it IMO.

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Old 07-28-2023, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stout
These look great—dig the monochrome center caps and the gray w/Racing Yellow.

Been saving some pics of VS-5RS wheels on my Brewster Green Carrera for another post, and still playing with finishes, but this is Motorsport Gold on one side and custom matched to the factory silver on my old GT4 wheels on the other. These are mounted on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and fitted with no spacers.

Pete, what differences have you felt in driving your car since swapping the OEM Carrera S wheels for these Apex forged wheels?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by timothymoffat
It's amazing how millimeter changes dial in the aesthetics. Personally, I think these wheels nail it without spacers.
I’m very happy with how my front wheels look with the 7mm spacers, so I’m 99% sure I’m keeping the front spacers on.

The jury is still out on the rears. Weirdly, the passenger side rear seems to stick out slightly more than the driver’s side!? (Yep, both sides have spacers.)

I’m happier with the driver’s side rear fitment!
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Old 07-28-2023, 09:16 PM
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Pete, what differences have you felt in driving your car since swapping the OEM Carrera S wheels for these Apex forged wheels?
Ha, that's among the topics for that other thread to come—but I won't keep you waiting.

After 5,000~ miles on Apex wheels & carryover (60% used?) Michelin PS4S, my subjective impressions vs the stock 20-inch Carrera S wheels had me reaching out to a factory development driver and suspension engineer—mainly to check myself. Why? Years ago, in the 996 or 997 era, I asked Walter Röhrl if he could detect the difference when driving the same 911 with & without PCCB. He thought a while, then shook his head and said no. I'd have to go back and see if I asked him about steering alone, but his answer has come to mind when I've read posts on RL about perceivable differences with lightweight wheels.

My question to the development driver, before sharing my own impressions: Could he feel wheel weight differences of, say, ~2 kg per front and 3-4 kg per rear? And, if so, what he would expect to feel? His answer was YES, followed by: Dampers work better. Suspension more responsive.

Which is exactly what I felt but wasn't ready to believe. Perhaps the clearest data point is the Apex wheels seem to quell 60% to 70% of a mild, occasional porpoising problem with the car's TechArt lowering springs. But the suspension also seems to work a little better all the time. So yes, I can feel a difference when driving the car. I'm not sure the car feels faster or brakes better, but it does feel lighter on its feet and more responsive overall. Hugely so? No. Subtly but appreciably? Yes.

Have been playing with tires, too, and one set of tires I've been playing with, which are currently on the heavier stock wheels, also seem to improve the damping. That seemed funny to me at first, until I realized the different/softer sidewall meant the PASM dampers have less sudden compression to counter on rebound. The next thing to try is putting these tires on the Apex wheels. More to come on that, but it may be a bit as I might repaint two or all four of the Apexes based on living with the colors you see here…

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Old 07-29-2023, 03:28 AM
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^^^ Thanks, Pete! Great article/post!

I hope to feel similar benefits over the coming weeks & months.

I’m on the same tyres as you. My T came with Sport PASM as standard, and then Litchfield Motors lowered it further with KW springs (20mm at the front & 10mm at the rear).

For reference, I bought my T new in April 2018 and I’ve now done over 48,250 miles. I have the OEM Porsche big yellow callipers, but with Alcon discs, rather than PCCBs.

Cheers,

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