ATL Fahrer

I bought the newest 911 that I WANTED. I have always been a normally aspirated fan and that won’t change. Sad thing is that the 991.1 gen will probably be the last 911 that I will buy…

If a I wanted a turbo powered 911, I would buy a 911 Turbo, pretty simple.

Oh, and on the BMW M3 topic, the real BMW guys believe the E46 was the last of the REAL M3’s. Straight 6 all the way, baby!

RP4S911

You shouldn't buy a car or treat it for resale unless it's solely a collector item in a corner. However look at it this way...


Base 992 Carrera with zero options (and I don't mean a "driver's car") That's $107k out of pocket, then a real $50k loss in 10years when you only get $57k for it.
You'll always have option/model envy and miss on the true experience that most options give.

...Or you can buy a base 992 GTS for $145k and be $145k out of pocket, then only lose $30k when you go to sell it and you get $115k for it in the same time frame. Some people don't get it. Cheaper does not always equate to better value or less money out of pocket in the long run. You always get what you pay for with 911 (well, almost always I should say).

This is just from my personal experience, perception, and opinion.

Martin S.

I feel the vortex sucking me in to this....I can't resist but I will try be brief, not my strong suit. The 991.2 has been panned, in my opinion, mostly by those that don't own one, and those perennial armchair critics, as too big with the 991.2 GTS seen as gargantuan as it a wide body. They also wax poetic about the reports of sporadic water pump failures. It can happen, but the effects are not earth shattering. Having the car about a month, I had the water pump repaired under warranty, and "while you are in there", they replaced the serpentine belt and an idler pulley. Yes it was disappointing, but since that time, over a year ago, and having tacked 5,000 miles on the odometer, including 3 track days, the car has been flawless. I routinely drive the PDK equipped car in the Sport Mode with the Sport Exhaust engaged. Drop it into Sport +, and the car seemingly morphs into beast, automatically shifting at a 4,000 RPM minimum...floor it, and it goes to Red Line with memorable shifts along the way, and comparable downshifts as you get off the gas. When I have taken the car out on the road, I generally drive in the Sport mode, and get 27 miles per gallon, sporting sport a continuous grin plastered across my face...that has been my experience for every miles driven to date, in the 2017 Porsche GTS.

I can't seem to detect a flaw in my car with 25,000 miles, 5,000 of those under my tutelage. If I had to do it over again, I be happy to acquire any iteration of the 991.2, Base, Carrera S and or the Carrera GTS. The water pump "non-issue" has addressed by Porsche, with current iterations guaranteed for 10 years. Worst case, your car's water pump develops a leak, you take it to the Porsche dealer and have it upgraded. I don't know if there is a charge for this service. This problem is minor compared to problems seen on some earlier Porsche cars such a bore scoring, IMS failures, etc. In the interests of brevity, I'll not delve deeper into this topic.

In closing, if you can find a 991.2, that is strong consider it. As just like any used Porsche car, get a PPI on the car, and make certain they check the thickness of the rotors and pads. You will want a metrics on the thickness of the rotors and pads. A brake job on a later model Porsche car is not for the faint of heart. Parts for a complete brake job for a Carrera S/GTS, including rotors, from Gaudin Porsche, Las Vegas, NV, excluding brake fluid is about $1,900 just for parts. They will charge you freight because of the weight of the rotors, but no sales tax. Also note, most 991.2 GTS cars come with Center Lock wheels. The best thing about them, they will NEVER be stolen from car. They require 500-600 newton meters (~370ftlb—443ftlb) to be applied to the center lock nuts, and > than this # to break them loose. The bad news everybody is aware of, center lock wheels require a 48" breaker bar and a torque wrench capable for delivering the required torque. You can buy these tools for <$500. If had found 2 GTS cars, 1 with center locks, and 1 with 5 studs (Very rare), I would prefer the 5 lugs.

I bought a 3 year, $100 deductible, Fidelity warranty from Michael Bernardo - mbernardo1111@gmail.com Many Rennlisters are using this company that Michael represents.

Levy

that's fair to say and yes, i agree again. but "best meets your intended use" = wants and needs.... to me at least.

if more then one gen or model year has/meets all your wants and needs (intended use), buy the newest one you can afford. seems pretty simple to me?

and long live the straight 6 !! =)

mrhebert

Best Porsche I have ever owned(although Macan is a close second). I've owned 7 911s, nothing in the past comes close. PDK rules too, never thought I say that.

Martin S.

I do confess to a 1 year liaison with a Cayman GTS and before and after that car, seven 911 cars:

• 73 911
• 74 911
• 80 SC
• 97 Carrera (Kept 17 years, evolved from street to track, and back to street again before it was sold)
• 2004 GT3
• 991.1 S
• 991.2 GTS

The 991.2 GTS meets att my needs and then some. Had it to 150 MPH on the front straight at Willow Springs, easy peasy. In Normal mode on the street, it's very stealthy, ready to morph into a monster on command, courtesy the PDK steering wheel dial referred to below.
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OPTIONS, PORSCHE 991 BY: BRADLEY BROWNELL. www.flatsixes.com

"If you’ve read our 991.2 Carrera review, you already know we think it’s awfully good. In fact, if the 991.1 was your favorite type of ice cream, the 991.2 is your favorite ice cream with sprinkles and hot-fudge; everything that made the first generation 991 great is back, PLUS a myriad of new features improve on an already excellent formula. If you’ve ordered your 991.2 with the Sport Chrono package, you can’t help but notice, in addition to the bulge on the dash that houses the chrono clock, there’s a new rotary dial on the steering wheel." ***

*** On PDK equipped cars with Sport Chrono, this rotary dial on the steering wheel allows the driver to choose from Normal, Sport, Sport + and Custom Mode (Driver Defined). In addition, there are paddle shifters, on the left for downshift, on the right for upshift.

MeshGearFox

Martin S.

Just as the 991.2, that shirt is classic and understated. No fiberglass "butter fly" doors needed. I'll order an XL, in Green, of course.

JustSlummin47

Zero complaints about the 911 50th NA, 20K fun miles. Not ready for a 911 small "t". A regular driver AND a Concours Queen
For turbo bliss and DD, my '19 CT6-V Blackwing motored TT is exhilarating!
Just buy what makes you happy.

capiii

I absolutely love my 991.2 GTS. Did a Soul cat delete and tune and the car is an animal. And the sound is fantastic!!!

Laszlo_Laz

The electric steering was greatly if not perfectly honed in on the 991.2 as well. There’s not much of anything to dislike about the 991. It’s why you see 992 owners going backwards to the 991. It’s a gem of not the best modern 911 made IMHO.

I also owned the e46 M3.

Pb Pedis

I almost traded it for a 992 TTS allocation, but I'm not ready to give this up yet.

Bud Taylor

And less of us vs them. Well said. I like peanut butter you like jelly be happy I found something I like and that im not eating your jelly.

Bud Taylor

Im a .1 guy but I dont understand why anyone who wants a turbo would buy the turbo model anymore because they are all turbo. You can buy an s model .2 and with a tune have 500hp on a street car for a fraction of the price. I wonder if Porsche will just stratify the new models in a different way as they are all turbos or if the model will just dissapear into the taycan.

Pb Pedis

Because 850HP+ on 93 octane pump gas and stock turbos with a bulletproof block and transmission that handles it with ease all day everyday, and drives like a stock car when off boost. That’s why.

My $0.02, there will always be a Turbo model with a capital T. The Turbo has been an icon for decades and is essential to the Porsche brand.