XLR82XS

The size subject is legitimate concern for true 911 enthusiasts. The increase is the main reason I don't care for the 992. 911 is getting too big - almost a 2 door Panamera. To me, 991.2 is the perfect modern 911 and will always be for the rest of time. The bland build is an issue across the model range. I understand the volume/profit motive but there are too many bland builds out there for the brand that is Porsche.

I'm lucky to have a Miami blue 991.2 and it's never leaving me until I'm dead.

stout

I think we can all agree that there are some great sounding 991.1s, but let's not let things get out of hand in here.

Maskman

I have never regretted my C2S….cannot wait for better weather to have the top down and cruise

Levy

yep....to all of the above!

especially the "all day, everyday" part. hard to believe the big boy T's have that level of performance and pack such a huge punch **reliably** and long term. good luck replicating the entire killer package with a tune and/or mods

911dude41

Yep... Sorry boyos, the 991.2 3.0t doesn't hold a candle to the TTS. Eat your hearts out all you want with your tunes and cat deletes. They're in different leagues.

Trust me, I've owned and modified both . There are also many who have jumped from 991.2 3.0 to the real flagship model.

If I ever go Carrera again, it's an NA model. Turbo is for THE 911 turbo, not the emissions friendly 3.0.

Upscale Audio

That's why God invented seat warmers and heated vents. Winter Spring and Fall are the best times for a cab. At least here in Cali.

I had a 997 C4S cab, and found a dark blue metallic 2015 GTS cab with an amazing build and I fell in love with it. Still in love but I lost that small package "feel" and bought a 2012 GTS coupe which is now replaced by my "forever car" 997.2 GT3 for fun and raw driving. I like small and light FEELING even if specs state the car is otherwise. My Alfa Quad feels light s a feather somehow, and I can control every inch of it.

The 991.1 w/PDK is great for L.A. traffic,and is a joy to drive. I'm selling the cab 'cause I bought a coupe. Had enough sun and now visiting the skin doctor more than I like. The cabriolet top on the 991 is so much nicer than the 997. There is so little wind buffeting it's crazy. I would keep the cab but I only have a 3-car garage.

ClassJ

If Porsche made a Turbo S with RWD and a manual transmission I would be in. (I don’t mean the sport classic price range)

XLR82XS

993/996 GT2

Pb Pedis

I respect that. Personally, I cannot handle the anxiety of that much power in a RWD MT car. Been there done that with my single turbo mkiv supra back in the day - never again.

ATL Fahrer

Also made a 997 GT2 and GT2 RS RWD models - both available with MT. Those cars are known as The Widow Maker for a reason.

Atheist

I recently purchased my 991.2 911 GTS. I did look at and drive numerous normally aspirated 991.1 versions and I realize many prefer the NA version but I will say the performance and daily driving characteristics of the twin turbo are much improved with the 991.2. The torque is available at much lower rpm and doesn't require the engine to be at quite as high of a rev level to get the instant torque needed on demand. It is a faster car and IMO an improvement. Like in most things in life change is difficult for some. I know some purists will disagree but Porsche has done a remarkable job eliminating the disadvantages of forced air induction and I really doubt things will go backwards. Turbo charged cars are going to take over eventually.

Pakman996-991.2

I fall into the category of the heavily modified .2 base boyos. The TTS is a FAR better platform and a legend in the 911 lineup. Of course I would love to have one and probably will have one day when I can afford it.

My impression is that is those who heavily modify 991.2’s fall into 3 categories:

1. Wants a RWD, light weight, manual with TTS power
2. Wants a GT2RS but doesn’t want to shell out $500k. Takes a GTS and builds himself a RWD, light weight, PDK with RS level suspension and still has $200k to spare with comparable performance.
3. Can’t afford a TTS so builds one for $100k and saves $50-70k in the process. A real sleeper base carrera.

What constitutes a real 911 is personal and subjective. I don’t take offense to the “racer boy” “tuner boy” “dyson 911” comments. I’ve heard it all before

I’ve had the pleasure of owning two fake 911’s. The 996.2 and the 991.2 and absolutely love both of them. The 996 haters would complain about it not being a real 911 because it was water cooled and didn’t have round headlights. Those comments are just as hilarious as the Dyson ones for the 991.2.

Enjoy what you have and “buy the newest 911 you can afford”

RP4S911

Right. "Turbo" means "Fast" now. Yes they all have turbos now, but it's the sum of all beefed up parts that makes the car what it is.
You don't hear many Audi guys say, "Why buy an RS6 when you can just get a base A6? They both have turbos."

WJGreer

Those would maybe be BMW guys in their 20s or with really short memories. The decision to put a V8 in the M3 was heresy when it happened, even though the cars ended up being very good. You had to know how to work the RPMs, but we all know what that's like around here.

The E46 was probably the M3 most (long term) BMW enthusiasts would point to. I'm not sure those would even be considered fast by today's standards, but the engines were amazing, the balance was fantastic, and the interiors were great like E46 3 series were.

WJGreer

I think the consensus is the 911 is pretty much an excellent car and has been for a long time. Owners and industry people seem to generally agree. People even seem to be forgetting about the IMS issues with the 996 series at this point,, which in my view was actually a pretty big goof.

Let's count ourselves fortunate to own one!