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I’ve read a lot off articles where there’s a common sentiment that there’s something slightly more in the T … a little something extra slipped into the T by engineers … but not officially marketed. 🙄
I happened to be looking at some Carrera T clips and came across this comment - Andreas P himself said in a Das Auto issue that the engine mounts on T were moved forward 2 inches to make the car feel more planted 😳😎.
Although I understand the sentiment, I still do not agree with going out of the way to "put down" or simplify something that has a special place in someone's (or a group of people's) Heart.
Just because a group of folks hold something dear, place it on a pedestal doesn't mean it diminishes the value or place of anything else.
Whether the T is as special as the fans claim, or its a marketing trim made of parts bin.... its no less special than any of the 911 trims... because it brings joy, admiration and fun to hundreds if not thousands of happy owners..
Unlike a lot of Carrera variants they did a lot more work on them at Weissach than is commonly known. They spoke to it briefly in the LA launch presentation. I'm driving/loving/keeping mine!
Easy enough to check - but I think this is the 992 not the 991.2 T.
how would you check? Peeking underneath both models and measuring?
The article mentions Carrera T that AP was sailing and commenting on.
On a slightly different but related note, it’s odd to me that the T’s weight is always compared to a base (20 kg). I’ve always thought it should be compared to an S - which is more like 80 kg or 175 pounds!
how would you check? Peeking underneath both models and measuring?
The article mentions Carrera T that AP was sailing and commenting on.
On a slightly different but related note, it’s odd to me that the T’s weight is always compared to a base (20 kg). I’ve always thought it should be compared to an S - which is more like 80 kg or 175 pounds!
Just look at the mounting point on a 991.2 T and 991.2 Base/S. I'll bet you a quarter they are identical :-)
But what if it’s true. And what else did they slip under the radar?
No knock on the T, but this passage from the article sums it up. I believe the shorter final drive ration of about 10% would make the car feel a bit more spritely over the base. Moving motor mounts sounds like a major change. Most of us with a base can achieve the same weight savings with an anti-gravity battery, and if you are really desperate, take out the mats and the all your junk, the steel hook, the air compressor and tire sealant. I respect the T very much, but really love my ventilated seats, glass roof, Bose and other weighty options. I don't care if it's a bit slower here and there.
To refresh your memory, the Carrera T is basically a standard-issue 911 with a bit more prowess in the grip and cornering department. The car wields the same engine as the base Carrera, which in the current model is a 3.0-liter twin-turbo flat six making 370 horsepower (276 kW). From there, engineers trim a bit of fat from the 911 package by swapping in components usually found on higher-spec performance models, such as thinner lightweight windows from the GT2 RS. There’s less sound deadening, and lightweight front seats with carbon fiber support can also be plugged in. Combine the weight savings with a lower, tuned suspension and optional rear steering (something not available on the standard Carrera) you get what some might call Carrera concentrate – a purer version of the base car that offers a more engaging experience for fewer greenbacks than a GT model.
I’m fully versed in my car. Been waiting for 10 years for the design to peak. But just before it went all haptic which they telegraphed years before the "911-Lexus" (aka 992) came out with touch screens, fancy boy (heavy) handles and fake exhaust.
Love my T since I care about handling but can’t stand for fat in my vechiles and don’t need unusable
power since im not cut out for prison life.
apparently the market agrees judging by the flatter depreciation curve compared to base and S models.
im hoping the rumors of secret changes (not published by Porsche and parroted by some magazine writer) will eventually come to light.
everyone knows given enough effort and money you can convert a t into even a turbo.
I think the commonts from all reviews I’ve come across feels like something more there lurking. 😎
I’ve read a lot off articles where there’s a common sentiment that there’s something slightly more in the T … a little something extra slipped into the T by engineers … but not officially marketed. 🙄
I happened to be looking at some Carrera T clips and came across this comment - Andreas P himself said in a Das Auto issue that the engine mounts on T were moved forward 2 inches to make the car feel more planted 😳😎.
Friend with a 991.2 base and I just compared his car to my T while on his lifts. My T mounts are 1.8” forward of those on his base 991.2. I will take some pics and post when able.
It's funny how many people here seem to horrified when they see a Carrera T with a sunroof, especially when August Achleitner, the chief engineer for the 911 said this of his own Carrera T: "The only option I have beside the navigation system is a sunroof. Wonderful."
So, I guess that should prove that it should not be so horrible to have a sunroof on a T after all...
That’s interesting, so another chassis mount and possible change transmission mounts etc. Lots of extra design and manufacturing cost not priced into the T…
wheel base is same, so that would then move a lot of equipment around
unless the engine have extra bolt holes pre drilled for this as part of plan for 992……….
Last edited by Norge911; Jan 16, 2022 at 10:38 PM.
There’s no issue with having one but it’s undeniable even by the chief engineer, it adds weight, making it marginally slower and increases load in corners and raises the center of mass which also affects handling.
It’s just an weight gram counting obsession … sort of like obsession by some with manuals … even though it’s slower.
Extra pixie dust sprinkle/magic on Carrera T?
