Modifying 991.1 steering software
#61
Three Wheelin'
99-911, on page 2 of this thread Adam was able to update the settings with a Launch X431
Last edited by jfischet; 03-29-2023 at 02:49 PM.
#62
Reposting my step-by-step from the 981 Forum:
Thought I’d write a step-by-step for people new to PIWIS or for those wanting their indys to take a crack at coding the new steering calibration. Disclaimer: I did see that someone was able to code the calibration in aftersales mode but this is just how I did it personally:
1. Switch to engineering mode. This video shows how to do this at 7:40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ture=emb_title)
2. Press “Overview”. This should pull up a list of all the modules in your car.
3. Highlight the EPS module and press “Codierung Anpassungen”
4. Highlight “Manuelle Codierung ohne MCR Regeln (Entwicklung)” then “Next”
5. Highlight “Kodierwert: Codierung Fahrzeugklassen” then “Next”
6. Select “GT3” in the dropdown menu then press “Schreiben” to code in the new calibration
7. I personally exited all the way out and then back into the steering calibration menu to make sure the coding still read “GT3” but obviously this is optional
ADDITIONAL STEPS NEEDED FOR 991.1 CODING:
1. Back to “Overview”
2. Highlight “Kombiinstrument” then press “Codierung Anpassungen”
3. Highlight “Manuelle Codierung ohne MCR Regeln (Entwicklung)” then “Next”
4. Highlight “Warnungskonfiguration: Warnungen EPS Lenkhilfe Ausfallwarnung (120)” & “Warnungskonfiguration: Warnungen EPS Lenkhilfe Fehlerwarnung (121)” then “Next”
5. Use dropdown menu and change both to “nicht aktiv” and then press “Schreiben”
Thought I’d write a step-by-step for people new to PIWIS or for those wanting their indys to take a crack at coding the new steering calibration. Disclaimer: I did see that someone was able to code the calibration in aftersales mode but this is just how I did it personally:
1. Switch to engineering mode. This video shows how to do this at 7:40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ture=emb_title)
2. Press “Overview”. This should pull up a list of all the modules in your car.
3. Highlight the EPS module and press “Codierung Anpassungen”
4. Highlight “Manuelle Codierung ohne MCR Regeln (Entwicklung)” then “Next”
5. Highlight “Kodierwert: Codierung Fahrzeugklassen” then “Next”
6. Select “GT3” in the dropdown menu then press “Schreiben” to code in the new calibration
7. I personally exited all the way out and then back into the steering calibration menu to make sure the coding still read “GT3” but obviously this is optional
ADDITIONAL STEPS NEEDED FOR 991.1 CODING:
1. Back to “Overview”
2. Highlight “Kombiinstrument” then press “Codierung Anpassungen”
3. Highlight “Manuelle Codierung ohne MCR Regeln (Entwicklung)” then “Next”
4. Highlight “Warnungskonfiguration: Warnungen EPS Lenkhilfe Ausfallwarnung (120)” & “Warnungskonfiguration: Warnungen EPS Lenkhilfe Fehlerwarnung (121)” then “Next”
5. Use dropdown menu and change both to “nicht aktiv” and then press “Schreiben”
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#63
Three Wheelin'
so took the 991 out to AZ88 with the GT3 file set and pushed it today. (for those who don't know this is a winding mountain road with no guardrails and 100+ ft drops)
the steering was great. i had complete confidence and it was a lot lighter and more fun than then last time I drove the road.
i really hope we can get some others to try this and report back with more technical feedback.
from earlier today:
the steering was great. i had complete confidence and it was a lot lighter and more fun than then last time I drove the road.
i really hope we can get some others to try this and report back with more technical feedback.
from earlier today:
Last edited by jfischet; 04-04-2023 at 01:25 AM.
#64
Rennlist Member
so took the 991 out to AZ88 with the GT3 file set and pushed it today. (for those who don't know this is a winding mountain road with no guardrails and 100+ ft drops)
the steering was great. i had complete confidence and it was a lot lighter and more fun than then last time I drove the road.
i really hope we can get some others to try this and report back with more technical feedback.
from earlier today:
the steering was great. i had complete confidence and it was a lot lighter and more fun than then last time I drove the road.
i really hope we can get some others to try this and report back with more technical feedback.
from earlier today:
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jfischet (04-04-2023)
#65
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Update on my side, still working on getting my hands on something that can update the firmware. I'm not keen on turning off the warning light and calling it good. My gut tells me the steering code is stored on the EPS module itself, and flipping the GT3 flag via the tool and getting a warning means it has defaulted to some fallback mode. Would love to see a >= 2014 991 do this, without getting a warning as the next step.
My offer stands, anyone in the Tristate with a 2014 or newer 991 want to give it a try? Takes just a couple of minutes.
My offer stands, anyone in the Tristate with a 2014 or newer 991 want to give it a try? Takes just a couple of minutes.
#66
Three Wheelin'
Update on my side, still working on getting my hands on something that can update the firmware. I'm not keen on turning off the warning light and calling it good. My gut tells me the steering code is stored on the EPS module itself, and flipping the GT3 flag via the tool and getting a warning means it has defaulted to some fallback mode. Would love to see a >= 2014 991 do this, without getting a warning as the next step.
My offer stands, anyone in the Tristate with a 2014 or newer 991 want to give it a try? Takes just a couple of minutes.
My offer stands, anyone in the Tristate with a 2014 or newer 991 want to give it a try? Takes just a couple of minutes.
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nhnguy12 (04-04-2023)
#67
Last week I hooked up my PIWIS to a 2016 Spyder. There were additional calibrations for the 981 Spyder, 981 GT4 and 991.1 GT3RS that did not show up as options when I had my 2014 Cayman S hooked up. The modules must come preloaded with whatever calibrations are available at the time the car is produced in the factory.
Has anyone else had the chance to play with their EPS settings?
Has anyone else had the chance to play with their EPS settings?
#68
Track Day
No GT3 option
Last week I hooked up my PIWIS to a 2016 Spyder. There were additional calibrations for the 981 Spyder, 981 GT4 and 991.1 GT3RS that did not show up as options when I had my 2014 Cayman S hooked up. The modules must come preloaded with whatever calibrations are available at the time the car is produced in the factory.
Has anyone else had the chance to play with their EPS settings?
Has anyone else had the chance to play with their EPS settings?
#69
First of all thank you so much for sharing this and the PTV activation with everyone. I sent this to my local Indy shop who was very interested. They hooked up their PIWIS to their own 05/13 production 991.1 C2. Gt3 was one of the options, they tried it and it worked. So I brought my own car in a 05/13 production 991.1 C2 only 135 cars earlier than the one they tested by vin. However my car had no option for GT3 on PIWIS. Steering is basically one of my biggest complaints about this car and platform especially the force change with load. It really seemed like the GT3 steering completely fixes this. Maybe there is a solution to this? oh well.
I suspect you'd need to replace your entire steering rack with a newer version unfortunately.
#70
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First of all thank you so much for sharing this and the PTV activation with everyone. I sent this to my local Indy shop who was very interested. They hooked up their PIWIS to their own 05/13 production 991.1 C2. Gt3 was one of the options, they tried it and it worked. So I brought my own car in a 05/13 production 991.1 C2 only 135 cars earlier than the one they tested by vin. However my car had no option for GT3 on PIWIS. Steering is basically one of my biggest complaints about this car and platform especially the force change with load. It really seemed like the GT3 steering completely fixes this. Maybe there is a solution to this? oh well.
#71
Track Day
The shop told me that when they scanned their shop car they could see all the options. However when they tried mine there was only c2 and c4 with the rest saying reserved. I pulled the build sheets for the vins and my car has a date of 2013-05-01 and their car has a date of 2013-05-23 which is strange because they are so close. Both are PDK and are optioned almost identically with very few differences. Neither car has PASM, SC, PTV or any other real hardware changes. The differences are my car has the premium package and theirs has power steering plus and an XM tuner. Otherwise they are the same. The Indy shop has a PIWIS 3 but not a PIWIS 2. I'll order one tonight and report back once it arrives.
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nhnguy12 (04-19-2023)
#72
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The shop told me that when they scanned their shop car they could see all the options. However when they tried mine there was only c2 and c4 with the rest saying reserved. I pulled the build sheets for the vins and my car has a date of 2013-05-01 and their car has a date of 2013-05-23 which is strange because they are so close. Both are PDK and are optioned almost identically with very few differences. Neither car has PASM, SC, PTV or any other real hardware changes. The differences are my car has the premium package and theirs has power steering plus and an XM tuner. Otherwise they are the same. The Indy shop has a PIWIS 3 but not a PIWIS 2. I'll order one tonight and report back once it arrives.
Do you know if they got the error the rest of us see?
I would suspect maybe their has later model steering software?
#73
Three Wheelin'
my car is an early build. 03/12 on the VIN plate. it's an S, 7MT
#74
The shop told me that when they scanned their shop car they could see all the options. However when they tried mine there was only c2 and c4 with the rest saying reserved. I pulled the build sheets for the vins and my car has a date of 2013-05-01 and their car has a date of 2013-05-23 which is strange because they are so close. Both are PDK and are optioned almost identically with very few differences. Neither car has PASM, SC, PTV or any other real hardware changes. The differences are my car has the premium package and theirs has power steering plus and an XM tuner. Otherwise they are the same. The Indy shop has a PIWIS 3 but not a PIWIS 2. I'll order one tonight and report back once it arrives.
very interesting..
could it be that Power steering Plus (assist variability) is a pre-requisite to un-lock other calibration options??
#75
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