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After running multiple sets of Endless ME20 pads (Best all rounder - Street and Frequent track) I stepped up to Endless N35S. The N35S are mint. The best track pad I have tried so far, and I consider them still street able. They are similar to ME20 in that they rarely ever squeal. When they do, it only mild, and just before coming to a complete rest, on the street.
So I have been extremely happy with both ME20 and N35S. I do like the extra initial bite with N35S. I did a track day in the rain, and thought I would be into ABD all the time, but I was pleasantly suprised, that this was not the case at all. They were great.
So I have been hearing superman claims about Race Technologies RE10. I finally needed rear pads, so I have ordered a set of rear RE10, and rear Type 3 rotors. (I did fronts awhile ago.) I'll still run the N35S on the front until they are finished and then put the RE10 on the front as well. I won't be doing much tracking for awhile, as I have some major work being done to the car.
I may even change the stripes, and redo the PPF. Its been 4.5 years and there are enough battle scars around the place. The guy pressure washing my car, held the gun too close to my stripes and tore a bit off the bottom, and the one on the hood balloons up after every wash. So time to replace them. Doing the front PWR radiators finally.
Very interested to see if the RE10 live up to all the hype. They are supposed to last forever and be much kinder to the rotors. I have heard a rumour that they are infect a special compound made by Endless. That only gave them a bigger tick in my opinion.
We always ran the Pagid RSL on the race car. 3200lb BMW 335 with Stoptech BBK. We'd run a full 12-hour endurance race on one set of pads. Fronts would be done after 12-hours. Rears would still go another 6-8 hours easy.
We always ran the Pagid RSL on the race car. 3200lb BMW 335 with Stoptech BBK. We'd run a full 12-hour endurance race on one set of pads. Fronts would be done after 12-hours. Rears would still go another 6-8 hours easy.
You must be old like me. 🤣. Yellows have been around forever. I ran them on my 2003 ///M5 in 2003. 🤣 I did originally run the RSL29 with my stock rotors and calipers but the squeal was unbearable.
Technology has marched on. These Endless pads can be beat up on the track, and are civil on the street. So no need to keep swapping out all the time.
You must be old like me. 🤣. Yellows have been around forever. I ran them on my 2003 ///M5 in 2003. 🤣 I did originally run the RSL29 with my stock rotors and calipers but the squeal was unbearable.
Technology has marched on. These Endless pads can be beat up on the track, and are civil on the street. So no need to keep swapping out all the time.
Oh yeah! They were the RSL29s! Yes, I am old too LOL!
We didn't have to worry about the squeal since it was a track only car. They worked well though.
We started racing with Carbotech. They didn't last at all and went to Pagids and never looked back. I'm sure the tech today is much better. It's been a few years since we've raced.
From the very beginning I went on mountain runs with car clubs and tracked the car. The OEM GTS front bumper does not have any protective mesh.
I believed that i had flattened the fins on the OEM side radiators, and once I got the GT3 front bar with protective mesh, I would replace them with the up graded ones from PWR.
Does anyone see an issue here? No? Nor did I, but assumption is the mother of all F@&k ups. 🤣
Did anyone else know that there are full size air con condensers completely covering the outside two radiators, full size? No, neither did I.
So it is in fact the two air conditioning condensers that have been hammered by debris due to the openness of the OEM GTS front bar.
Oh well. So, my mechanic asked me did I want them replaced, so I guess Yes 🤣.
With the fins flattened, that would now be restricting air flow to the radiators directly behind them. So I will replace them, so they will have full flow to the new PWR’s.
Here are some pics. Note the black PWR centre radiator. ( I had it painted black)
Then the damaged air conditioner condensers.
Black PWR Centre Condenser Close up flattened fins
From the very beginning I went on mountain runs with car clubs and tracked the car. The OEM GTS front bumper does not have any protective mesh.
I believed that i had flattened the fins on the OEM side radiators, and once I got the GT3 front bar with protective mesh, I would replace them with the up graded ones from PWR.
Condenser Close up flattened fins
Yikes. When I removed the fins on my base bumper I installed two layers of mesh for everything-one on all three opening in the bumper and one over each condenser and center radiator. I installed them in between the unit and the ductwork so they are not rubbing on the units themselves. So far so good-still cant believe that there is little to no protection from the factory on these cars. Surprised your condensers haven't sprung a leak yet from all the impacts but makes sense to do them now.
Yikes. So far so good-still cant believe that there is little to no protection from the factory on these cars. Surprised your condensers haven't sprung a leak yet from all the impacts but makes sense to do them now.
Shape OEM GTS Bar
You can even make out the shape of the OEM GTS bar with the cross bar. 🤣
Just sat down and read through 10 pages of this thread. I love to see the progress on your car @4 Point 0 Seems like there’s not many people extracting the potential of the 9A2. I just flashed the APR Stage 3 E60-E85 map as well as their PDK TCU upgrade on mine recently. Car feels transformed. No wonder you and @AlexZTuned swear on E. You guys have been my inspiration and I continue to learn from reading things shared.
I will go to 1/4 track soon to test again and share results.
Just sat down and read through 10 pages of this thread. I love to see the progress on your car @4 Point 0 Seems like there’s not many people extracting the potential of the 9A2. I just flashed the APR Stage 3 E60-E85 map as well as their PDK TCU upgrade on mine recently. Car feels transformed. No wonder you and @AlexZTuned swear on E. You guys have been my inspiration and I continue to learn from reading things shared.
I will go to 1/4 track soon to test again and share results.
Congrats!
4.0 is a legend, and yes Ethanol is the good stuff. Love this thread.
4.0 what is your solution for extra rear downforce?
I drove a 992 GT3 at Red Bull Ring and I have lost my mind how fast easy to drive and capable this car is. Now need to figure out if I will INVEST to upgrade suspension and aero to my tuned GTS to be close to a GT3 or upgrade to 992 platform.
4.0 what is your solution for extra rear downforce?
I drove a 992 GT3 at Red Bull Ring and I have lost my mind how fast easy to drive and capable this car is. Now need to figure out if I will INVEST to upgrade suspension and aero to my tuned GTS to be close to a GT3 or upgrade to 992 platform.
Hi Nilaz, I had a custom adjustable bracket made for the 911R underbody aero.
Whilst we are on Aero, the stock GTS front bumper is surprisingly the worst of the Carrera’s. It generates 16kg of lift at 100mph. Whilst most rarely see that speed, I’m frequently well above that at the track. In a 130mph sweeper, the steering was getting light. When I first asked my race mechanic about aero, he said, for street cars that occasionally track, its more about negating lift than adding decent downforce.
This was a major factor in doing the front GT3 bar properly with the full aero box underneath. So at 100mph I have gone from 16kg lift to 12kg down force. 28kg difference isn’t much. But the faster I go, I get more downforce, rather than more lift. The car is far more stable now through that 130mph sweeper.
To balance off the front GT3 bar, I added the 911R rear underbody tray. I also have the Akrapovic rear diffuser. I don’t know that it does much, but it looks good.
I want to do the Ventus front underbody aero and strakes.
However I need to settle on a rear wing.
06-28-2022, 10:07 AM
