Techart/H&R vs GT3 height
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TurboS_GG (11-18-2019)
#62
From what I have seen so far, both, 991. If anyone has updated rates to add for 991.2, please update the running chart in this thread.
I know Bilstein B16 is same part number for 991.1/2, GT3 is same for both (not RS), I have read some posts from GMG who seem to think the rates are same for the cars.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1060...thread-16.html
I know Bilstein B16 is same part number for 991.1/2, GT3 is same for both (not RS), I have read some posts from GMG who seem to think the rates are same for the cars.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1060...thread-16.html
#63
Update
Spring Rates:
Spring Rates:
- Base 991: 24nm/48nm
- PASM: 28nm/62nm
- PASM-S/GTS?: 33nm/108nm
- KW HAS: 44nm/100nm
- GT3: 45nm/120nm
- Bilstein B16 Damptronic full coilovers: 50nm/110nm
- Elephant Stage 1: 52nm/96nm
- 991.2 GT3 RS: 100nm/160nm
- H&R VTF: "We won't tell you"
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TurboS_GG (11-18-2019)
#64
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Just wanted to say thanks to Joec500 and AdamSanta for pointing out the adjustable spring perch on the rear PASM shock that I didn't even notice when I installed the springs. I have H&R sport springs and always thought the rear sat a bit high making the car have to much rake. It bothered me to the point I was about to drop a few thousand on some coilovers to correct it. Well today i yanked the rear wheels and moved the snap ring down to the bottom groove and scored another 3/8" drop in the rear. Now I think it sits perfect and it was free! So for anyone who wants to know, this pic is a 2013 Carrera 4S with PASM, H&R sport springs, and PASM spring perch set at bottom groove. Cheers!
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Pure745 (07-28-2019)
#68
For anyone wondering, any of the above springs rates should provide for a nice road setup except the RS rates which are getting on the stiff side for street imo. I have 60/120 in my tractives and very very happy w that choice for road and b-road sprints.
#69
Just wanted to say thanks to Joec500 and AdamSanta for pointing out the adjustable spring perch on the rear PASM shock that I didn't even notice when I installed the springs. I have H&R sport springs and always thought the rear sat a bit high making the car have to much rake. It bothered me to the point I was about to drop a few thousand on some coilovers to correct it. Well today i yanked the rear wheels and moved the snap ring down to the bottom groove and scored another 3/8" drop in the rear. Now I think it sits perfect and it was free! So for anyone who wants to know, this pic is a 2013 Carrera 4S with PASM, H&R sport springs, and PASM spring perch set at bottom groove. Cheers!
#70
I was able to do it on the car without disassembling anything and only removing the wheels. First side took me about an hour of trying to compress the spring with one side of a spring compressor which almost got me there but not close enough. Then I figured out that I can stick the handle of my floor jack in the other side between 2 coils while the spring compressor took a little tension off the other side and use the top of the rotor with a piece of wood on it to pry the spring upwards just enough to sneak the ring out and move it down. Then it took me about five minutes to do the other side lol. If you have someone to help hold the spring up with the pry bar it will be far easier to do the ring with two hands rather than one handed with the other holding the prybar like I did. It will certainly be safer as well but It's actually really easy once you figure it out. I originally tried using massive zip ties to hold the spring compressed after jacking up and compressing the suspension, But when I let the jack down to to do the deed the wire ties failed at the zip point...I do not recommend using zip ties unless you don't care about losing a finger or two. I would think if you have a buddy to help, you can probably just pry upwards on the spring with the pry bar and not even need to compress with the spring compressor...but by myself it seemed a bit sketchy. Good luck!
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TurboS_GG (11-18-2019)
#71
Bilstein's are installed.
Let's talk alignment, performance but not track rat, stock upper mounts, stock lower arms.
-1.5-2 front? Toe 0? same as front rear? rear toe?
Let's talk alignment, performance but not track rat, stock upper mounts, stock lower arms.
-1.5-2 front? Toe 0? same as front rear? rear toe?
#73
This is what my alignment is currently. Never tried it on track but it’s good on the street. I entered the car into the computer as spasm -20mm. The hunter machine asks you to enter the height from center of axle to fender lip at all four corners and this is what it generated for me to run. Car drives perfectly straight, tire wear is even, and all around feels great. Not sure if this is stock or not. But I can say the red above it was after I did the H&R springs and it drove like crap.