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Old 07-17-2019, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by polobai
Here are my measurements after my h&r spring install. Honestly was expecting it to be considerably lower but will see if it settles. Car is a 2018 carerra t with PASM.
I took some measurements of my car last night, stock (PASM-S), same numbers as yours stock. You sure your car doesn't have PASM-S instead of PASM? Maybe all T's come with PASM-S?

So looks like you dropped .75" front, almost .25" rear.

I am hoping for .5" front .25" rear with the Techart.
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Its probably PASM-S...cant keep up with all the acronyms now a days. Curious on your measurements after the tech art install. Did they get installed yesterday?
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Originally Posted by polobai
Its probably PASM-S...cant keep up with all the acronyms now a days. Curious on your measurements after the tech art install. Did they get installed yesterday?
I won't be installing the springs for at least 2 weeks. I will be installing the DSC on Monday.
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Gotcha. Yes, dropped 3/4 in the front and just over 1/4 in the back. Are you planning on doing the install yourself? The fronts are super easy and the rears are a super pain in the butt...if you need help or pointers let me know!
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Originally Posted by polobai
Are you planning on doing the install yourself? The fronts are super easy and the rears are a super pain in the butt...if you need help or pointers let me know!
Yes I am going to DIY. Never done suspension on a Porsche but have done a bunch of other cars. Just ordered the Schwaben strut sockets.

Front looks like don't need to do too much. Strap springs, remove top nut, remove end link nut, and swivel strut out

Rear... what spring compressor did you use? I saw some guys saying they used very strong zip ties because a compressor doesn't fit?
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Yes, the rear was the worst. I have probably done close to 100 suspensions on various other cars over the years and this car (in the rear) was by far the hardest. For the rear, i used a snap on "claw type" compressor-worked on the factory springs but not to compress the H&R springs to get them back on...believe it or not I ended up using worm clamps and a vice to temporarily tighten two coils on the H&R springs enough to install them back on..def a pain in the butt.
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Originally Posted by AdamSanta85
Are you guys SURE Techart springs are made by Eibach and not H&R?

I was looking for assistance with bump stops on PN 091.200.120.009 (991.1 C2S), I can't figure out what they are speccing for my need, page 5, "2 - 991.343.301.05 - Helper spring FA" BUT for some of the models they spec "28880 VA-Z" which is an H&R bump stop. My spidey sense (8 years of working in performance automotive industry) is telling me Techart springs are actually H&R........

https://www.techart.de/fileadmin/med...f6c470cfa8.pdf


My bad, I had assumed these were for the rear. I also have a SPASM car, perhaps this is why they didn't swap out any of the bumpstops.
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My bad, I had assumed these were for the rear. I also have a SPASM car, perhaps this is why they didn't swap out any of the bumpstops.
No worries at all. I was just trying to do my due diligence on getting all the parts lined up. Turns out no need for bump stop swap on PASM-S C2S cars. I nearly ordered H&R bump stops last night, glad I held off.
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Originally Posted by polobai
Yes, the rear was the worst. I have probably done close to 100 suspensions on various other cars over the years and this car (in the rear) was by far the hardest. For the rear, i used a snap on "claw type" compressor-worked on the factory springs but not to compress the H&R springs to get them back on...believe it or not I ended up using worm clamps and a vice to temporarily tighten two coils on the H&R springs enough to install them back on..def a pain in the butt.
Oh boy. I just ordered 50 200lb zip ties. It feels so wrong but that might be the approach I take...
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Oh boy. I just ordered 50 200lb zip ties. It feels so wrong but that might be the approach I take...
I hope you have life insurance....
Old 07-17-2019, 04:18 PM
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I hope you have life insurance....
At least I wasn't first... Ill put like 10 on it. I might try a ratchet strap as well. Should be fine.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/9647...nsive-diy.html
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removing wont be a problem as you can get a spring compressor around the factory springs. Its reinstalling that is the issue-the wraps should be fine once you can compress the spring enough as long as you use enough of them.
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I just got my 991.2 back after having TechArt springs installed. PASM suspension with stock 20" S wheels and 7mm spacer in front. Definitely not as low as H&R's. The front for me is perfect, I wish the rear was just a bit lower. The ride quality is amazing. Could hardly notice any difference from stock in normal mode. Certainly not soft but I feel the stock suspension on the 991.2 is stiffer vs 991.1. Have not pushed the car just an easy drive home on familiar roads. I got exactly what I wanted vs.H&R so far = not quite as low and stock like ride in normal and a bit more firm in sport mode. Looks like its just a tad lower than SPASM which is right where I wanted to be. I could not stand the SUV look of the standard PASM suspension.

Very pleased so far!
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Picked up some used Bilstein B16 Damptronic last night. I need to order the PDCC adapters which will take a few weeks to come. So probably not going install the Techart springs and will put them up for sale.

I measured a 991.1 GT3 last night, it was 27.25" floor to fender front and rear. I am aiming for this height, maybe a hair lower. This means .75" drop rear and .25-ish" front from PASM-S height.


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Just installed this bad boy, reset ride height in software. Smoothed out the ride a lot. Loving it. Can't wait to install the coilovers. PDCC adapters will be here this week so maybe this weekend or the following.


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