Bob Z.

Nah, you'll be fine as you probably caught it, just as I have. Just take your time and you'll be amazed at how much better you, and the tranny, will get once you start putting on the miles. I have had 6 speed P-cars and I don't know why so many complain about this 7 speed since I think it is great, and much better than the 4 speed 930 I had in the past!

superdog

and that’s the fun of it, right?

ive already noticed improvements. I’m enjoying myself immensely. And still so much practice needed and much to learn.

Love love love this thing.

Bobby 911

while you can control your own shifts with PDK, it is certainly the case that 99.9% of the population views PDK and other DCT transmissions as automatic. If there's no stick and no third pedal, almost no one would consider it a manual transmission. don't shoot the messenger, just stating how it is.

BSO

I've got close to 3k now and, my manual has gotten smoother and really fun to go up and down.

A PDK-equipped car will be faster, no argument, but I wouldn't have purchased my C4S, or any other Porsche, unless it had a manual.

Of course, this is a personal choice so no right or wrong. I drove a PDK C4S at the Experience at Atlanta and no question it afforded more attention to driving and allowed more accurate car placement. There's certainly an advantage there.

A true manual will always have three pedals, enjoy them while they still exist.

Thor's

If a PDK is a manual, why doesn’t Porsche say that the 992 “manual” will not be available in the fall?

ipse dixit

Lots of small penises in this thread.

Bob Z.

Peeking in the restroom again?

bkrantz

If pushing a button can make something happen, that sounds "automatic". And lacking skill requirements.

And besides ease and convenience, there is some risk involved. If there is a mechanical nanny watching out to prevent mistakes, then the task is "fool" proof.

Wujohn

I drive a PDK and it is great for what it is- a manual has 3 peddles, period. Anything else and we are giving participation awards.

fast1

The same with GM's announcement that a manual will not be offered on the C8.
I would have ordered a PDK on the last Porsche that I bought except for my good fortune of being given a Cayman with PDK as a loaner when I brought my car in for servicing. It's about a 45 minute drive from the dealership to my house. For the first 15 minutes of the drive, PDK blew me away and I was certain that I would want one on my next Porsche, but for the next 15 minutes PDK lost most of its luster. and for the last 15 minutes I just used automatic mode. So for me PDK is just boring, and I found it silly using paddles when the tranny can shift automatically.
Bottom line is that very few drivers prefer a MT; certainly fewer than 5% overall and no more than 20% of hose who buy sports cars. I wouldn't be surprised if a MT isn't offered at all in a few years, with the possible exception of the Miata where MTs are still very popular.

Guards_Red_991

Please don't take the monkey comment so literal, I'm sure you understood what I meant. PDKs are better in racing where every millisecond counts and a perfect lap can make or break the win. I'm talking about normal enthusiasts in this forum, normal people driving their cars to work, errands, etc...

[/QUOTE] me of the old joke: "A music lover is someone who uses equipment to listen to music. An audiophile is someone who uses music to listen to equipment."[/QUOTE]

I believe both are important and have their place... Just like PDK and manuals.

George from MD

So when I shift the old powerglide from 1st to 2nd I'm driving a manual?

Puh-leez.

Bud Taylor

On sports or sporty cars dealers often list automatic cars as manuals. I always send a link of the ad to autotrader or whoevers security group saying the vehicle is being misadvertised. Yet another reason to buy cars from individuals not dealers.


UOTE=andrewjn;15815333]Just venting! Why is there so much confusion when we describe a manual transmission! Its simple. A manual transmission has a third pedal. Anything else is an automatic! Why are there some people (including dealers and other professionals) who still think that a PDK with steering wheel shifters is a manual? This is all so frustrating to me! PDK or other steering wheel shifters are automatics.....[/QUOTE]

Dbull65

If this were true, automakers would still be making a selling a lot of manual transmission cars. However, most people that learned to drive a manual transmission have went the way of the automatic. Sure there are a few that still love to row their own, but not as many as you would imply by your statement.

jfischet

this thread is so funny.

here's my attempt to add some more humor spoken in the idiotic language of our time: "a PDK is an automatic that identifies as a manual"