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Old 05-03-2019, 02:51 PM
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^^ Reminds me of H-D riders, who are among the least fundamentally skilled motorcycle riders on the planet. What they have in common with above is the need to blip the throttle constantly. It's like an extension of their childhood rattle. Just got to somehow make more noise than necessary. As for heel & toe, wish I had a dollar for every person that brings it up as the final answer to everything. I'd buy my first private jet.
Old 05-03-2019, 03:01 PM
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That picture was just to show in one description what they have fun with and enjoy with a manual compared to Auto-stick. Plain and Simple. To go back to OP original thread, YES I wished Dealers would be specific when advertising their cars. IF it's a 6-7 speed manual STICK say so, if PDK then make that clear, that's all. Some enjoy manual gears some love that PDK, apples to oranges.

And I'm not even going to address your assumption that I drive like a Harley driver that loves to blip my shyt constantly nor an extension of my childhood rattle or even love to make more noise as necessary as you don't know me, nor a lot of the people here that expresses their love for driving manuals, how we drive or how we are as people.
Old 05-03-2019, 03:26 PM
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If a millennial can drive it, it's an automatic.
Old 05-03-2019, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SeymourButts
If a millennial can drive it, it's an automatic.

We have 2 millennials, 31 & 36, and both have driven manuals since they learned to drive. One still has a manual.
Old 05-03-2019, 05:26 PM
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People who learn to drive manuals with clutch rarely ever go back to transmissions that don’t require rowing through gears and coordinating a clutch.
i agree it’s a feeling of being at one with a car and being part of its mechanical nature.
you can’t discount the fact that driving a manual transmission takes some aspect of skill and many take pride in that.
Sorry to say but any grandmother who can barely walk can get iinto a PDK car and drive it just as effectively and quick as anyone else.
Old 05-03-2019, 05:36 PM
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Lmao.
Old 05-03-2019, 07:45 PM
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I haven’t driven a PDK so I can’t speak to the learning curve... I can tell you I’ve owned my manual C2S for a month now I’m having to WORK HARD to get better at fast shifts.... I hadn’t driven a manual in 20 years and EVERY damn shift has been a pleasure (except that first week when, uh, twice, I started in reverse at a stop light... that was a bitch/slightly embarrassing).
Old 05-03-2019, 07:47 PM
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 6flat
Sorry to say but any grandmother who can barely walk can get iinto a PDK car and drive it just as effectively and quick as anyone else.
Originally Posted by Guards_Red_991
It matters because it takes more attention and finesse to coordinate your foot and hand to shift. PDK is just pushing a flappy paddle... A monkey can do that.
So Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren and the other F1 teams can save a ton of money by firing their drivers and renting monkeys. Got it.

Driving a manual is more engaging than a PDK, there's no way around it.
Reminds me of the old joke: "A music lover is someone who uses equipment to listen to music. An audiophile is someone who uses music to listen to equipment."
Old 05-03-2019, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MidEngineRules
^^ Reminds me of H-D riders, who are among the least fundamentally skilled motorcycle riders on the planet. What they have in common with above is the need to blip the throttle constantly. It's like an extension of their childhood rattle. Just got to somehow make more noise than necessary. As for heel & toe, wish I had a dollar for every person that brings it up as the final answer to everything. I'd buy my first private jet.
I DO NOT resemble that remark. I have ridden for over 35 years and currently have a Harley Fay Boy Lo but have had Yamahas (first bike) and more recently a few Super Blackbirds and a ZX-14R, which are as different than a Harley as one can get on 2 wheels. There are just as many idiots on 4 wheels as 2, and all of the latter are manuals so if you know how to drive is an auto you would need training wheels.
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Originally Posted by jaybo
I haven’t driven a PDK so I can’t speak to the learning curve... I can tell you I’ve owned my manual C2S for a month now I’m having to WORK HARD to get better at fast shifts.... I hadn’t driven a manual in 20 years and EVERY damn shift has been a pleasure (except that first week when, uh, twice, I started in reverse at a stop light... that was a bitch/slightly embarrassing).
i can relate to this.

Im definitely learning how to drive this car. Downshifting into 5th, but it’s actually 3rd....

hate doing that.
Old 05-03-2019, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by superdog
i can relate to this.

Im definitely learning how to drive this car. Downshifting into 5th, but it’s actually 3rd....

hate doing that.
And it doesn't make for a pretty DME report either!
Old 05-03-2019, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
And it doesn't make for a pretty DME report either!
i worry about that. It’s somewhat stressful.

But guessing it’s not creating any adverse effects. I’ve barely pushed the car at all. Still at only 750ish miles.
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Originally Posted by shing911500e
Only on Rennlist......love this place.
actually. This is everywhere. Like....everywhere. It’s our species.


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