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Old 05-14-2019, 09:11 PM
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Mission accomplished. The PCCBs were installed much easier than I thought it would be. My installer, Terry O., owner of Pulse Racing Services in Jacksonville FL used Porsche parts diagrams, and his knowledge, to get what parts he needed to do the conversion. He was correct ordering only the parts that were needed other than the sensors since he did not know that the person I bought them from in Germany included them with the calipers/pads and rotors. And as he said all along, the brake booster did not need to be replaced. He took the car for a test ride and if you knew his background, which is on his web site, no one should doubt him. Anyway, they feel great and look great and I am very happy with my decision; those were the one option I debated when I was ordering and if my SA had not talked me out them I would not have had to go through with this. I was going to take a lot of pictures but for one I was cleaning my wheels before they went back on and for two, it was a real basic job of unbolting the old one, installing the new ones with the required parts and bleeding the brakes, which took 1 and occasioanlly 2 guys about 2 1/2 hours to complete. I will complile a parts list for those who would like to do the same.







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Old 05-14-2019, 09:22 PM
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Here is the parts list:

Cover Panel- 991.351.805.03 (1)

Cover Panel- 991.351.806.03 (1)

Brake Wear IND- 991.609.181.00 (2)

Pan-Head Screw- 999.067.054.09 (4)

Adapter- 9P1.611.315 (2)

Round Head Screw- 999.073.313.09 (4)

Cover Panel- 991.352.805.02 (1)

Cover Panel- 991.352.806.02 (1)

Screw- N-911.837.01 (4)

AS Brake Line- 991.355.581.05 (1)

AS Brake Line- 991.355.582.05 (1)

Z Brake Line- 9P1.614.771.B (1)

Z Brake Line- 9P1.614.772.B (1)

Bracket- 9P1.614.843.B (1)

Bracket- 9P1.614.844.B (1)

Needless to say you will need 2 front rotors, 2 rear rotors, 2 front calipers, and 2 rear calipers along with a set of pads. Mine were purchased from a seller in Germany, which were as new take-offs from a 991 Turbo; take-offs from GT cars are different:

99135142933 Front Caliper left
99135143033 Front Caliper right
99135194602 Front Pads

99135242933 Rear Caliper left
99135243033 Rear Caliper right
99135294601 Rear Pads

99135140706 Front rotor
99135140806 Front rotor
99135240907 Rear rotor
99135241007 Rear rotor

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Old 05-14-2019, 09:41 PM
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Nice job Bob! Perseverance! PCCB was the last box I checked after my wife said she didn't want to hear me complain about it in a year. My car is loaded up much like yours, but my SA's first comment when it was coming off the truck was "look at those brakes". Enjoy the initial bite and dust-less driving.
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Way to go Bob! They look awesome. You the man my friend!!
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:58 PM
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Thanks all, I almost gave up there a while.

By the way, I talked to the guy in Germany that sold me the PCCB kit and he said he has new kits for both 991s and 992s if anyone is interested, which will not be as low priced as the take-offs I bought but they will cost a lot less than what one would pay here.
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Old 05-15-2019, 02:26 PM
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Hero status, and thanks for the update—so glad you are happy with the conversion, and the parts list is a real service to the community.

Curious to know if there are no air cooling duct (rear), master cylinder, and/or upright differences? Thought there were, but clearly your system is working and/or maybe the parts are termed differently?
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Originally Posted by stout View Post
Hero status, and thanks for the updateŚso glad you are happy with the conversion, and the parts list is a real service to the community.

Curious to know if there are no air cooling duct (rear), master cylinder, and/or upright differences? Thought there were, but clearly your system is working and/or maybe the parts are termed differently?
We verified that the master cylinder was not needed but there were questions about whether a different brake booster was needed since the part#s are different. But again, my installer talked to someone that verified it was not needed and the seller in Germany said he talked to his brake supplier that confirmed it and the pedal feel is perfect. I was really surprised how smooth the conversion went.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:06 PM
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^ Thanks! This information is Rennlist gold for those thinking about a conversion. I know there are many PCCB detractors out there, but skipping PCCB was my biggest regret on my GT4 while PCCB is my favorite option on my 911. Something I can enjoy every day, both in terms of pedal feel/response even around town and then of course in clean wheels.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:50 PM
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I have changed my RED big calipers in my MY2019 GTS with PCCBs as i did the mistake not to order from the factory.

The upgrade was done at my dealer in order to ensure full warranty of my car.

The key point to control the PCCB upgrade cost are the rotors.

I bought brand new Porsche OEM (version 3) rotors from Germany together with PCCB pads and all remaining parts from my dealer.

The work completed in 3 hours.

Next month BBS FIRs Will upgrade the current OEM centerlocks and the car Will be totally transformed.

I estimate around 100lbs rotation mass deduction after upgrade to PCCBs and FIRs.
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so impressive.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:23 PM
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Bob,

Thanks for the PM. I saw the post last night and just had a chance to respond. The brakes look great. The last PCCB rotor I ordered is coming in this week and I plan to order the rest of the hardware you listed. Thanks for creating this post, listing all the items needed and including pics. I can't wait until I join the club.
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Originally Posted by nilaz View Post
I have changed my RED big calipers in my MY2019 GTS with PCCBs as i did the mistake not to order from the factory.

The upgrade was done at my dealer in order to ensure full warranty of my car.

The key point to control the PCCB upgrade cost are the rotors.

I bought brand new Porsche OEM (version 3) rotors from Germany together with PCCB pads and all remaining parts from my dealer.

The work completed in 3 hours.

Next month BBS FIRs Will upgrade the current OEM centerlocks and the car Will be totally transformed.

I estimate around 100lbs rotation mass deduction after upgrade to PCCBs and FIRs.
I assume the dealer gave you the parts list of what they provided so maybe you can take a look at the list I posted here and see if they match, or post a copy of the invoice (black out your personal info if you like). At the very least I would like to know if they replaced the brake booster.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by krburrell View Post
Bob,

Thanks for the PM. I saw the post last night and just had a chance to respond. The brakes look great. The last PCCB rotor I ordered is coming in this week and I plan to order the rest of the hardware you listed. Thanks for creating this post, listing all the items needed and including pics. I can't wait until I join the club.
You are welcome, and I am always glad to help as I have received a lot of useful information on the forums over the years and it is nice to contribute myself. Be sure and let us know how it works out, and for anyone deciding to do the conversion I suggest they double check the part#s of what I received from Germany since those were provided to me; however, there are multiple rotor part#s that will work based on different versions available.
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Old 05-15-2019, 11:57 PM
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I forgot to say that I had 7mm spacers added to all 4 wheels. I wanted to bring the wheels out a little and the rear looks better to me and while the front still looks somewhat tucked I have no plans to add wider ones. I also added them since I read that some were getting small stones stuck and scraping their calipers but since I have the non centerlock wheels there is plenty of clearance to begin with so they were not needed for that issue.
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Old 05-16-2019, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Z. View Post
I assume the dealer gave you the parts list of what they provided so maybe you can take a look at the list I posted here and see if they match, or post a copy of the invoice (black out your personal info if you like). At the very least I would like to know if they replaced the brake booster.
Bob i have send you the parts list with email 2 months ago.
There are 3 versions of PCCB rotors. I bought the latest ones comes out from factory.

PCCB rotors of 996/997 are version 1, 991.1 version 2, 991.2/992 version. 3.

They changed the brake booster as this is clearly described in the official Porsche parts number. PCCB brake booster in 991.2 is different than Steel booster.
PCCB brake booster in 991.1 is the same with Steel booster.
The reason is that based on their request in order for the car to be covered from Porsche warranty it has to be identical as comes out from the factory.
As i said before brake booster replacement was 500$ cost therefore minimum comparing to the whole extra cost for the PCCB upgrade.

Lesson learned. NEVER buy a New Porsche WITHOUT PCCB.

Even if you plan to track your car buy the PCCBs and Sell them. You can make money.
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