Introduction: Motul
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From: Cypress, CA
Here in S. Carolina the temps dip into the mid 70's only in the morning. During the day, mid to high 90's with extreme humidity. I have a 2014 C4S in which I use Motul X-Cess 5W40. I'm doing 2-3K miles annually with annual oil service. No track time but I generally drive with much zeal once fully warmed up. The car is parked throughout the winter months. Should I consider 0W40 grades? Which of the X products are more likely to align with my type of use? Does the 300V have an acceptable additive pack for my needs? I also use 300V 4T in my Duc but have always been cautioned that racing oils have little to no additive package as it is unnecessary for the oil's intended end user? However, my old Duc 748S seems happy/healthy (and leak free) after 28K (not-so gentle) miles and 20 years!
Lastly, any local resellers you are familiar with in the Greenville SC area for your automotive products? (It seems if I want to purchase Motul, Fedex UPS or USPS must touch it first
Lastly, any local resellers you are familiar with in the Greenville SC area for your automotive products? (It seems if I want to purchase Motul, Fedex UPS or USPS must touch it first
From the sounds of it, X-cess 5W40 is a fine choice for your 911. The X-max will still have better pumpability at cold start regardless of temp but unless you're seeing extreme to moderate cold temps, I wouldn't bother changing product if you're getting good performance out of the X-cess 5W40.
As for 300V, it will fit your current oil change practice quite well- a low mileage, annual oil change; just note that it is not Porsche approved and is very expensive vs the 8100 X-cess product. While there are "non-detergent" specific racing oils out there, it does not mean racing oils as a whole do not have detergents or additives, quite the contrary. 300V has all the necessary additives to be used as a service/every day street oil including elevated levels of ZDDP and moly for extra protection and internal component efficiency. For you I think it comes down to cost and if you want a Porsche approved oil. A 300V oil change will cost at least 2x more than an 8100 oil change and again, is not approved.
I'm waiting on answer on a shop near Greenville, SC. We do have quite a few dealers of Motul in the general area (see list below) but it will require a bit of a drive- call ahead of time as well. I will PM you if I have something closer:
- ALL GERMAN PERFORMANCE1194 HENDERSONVILLE RD ASHEVILLE NC 28803
28803 ASHEVILLE - DEZOD MOTORSPORTS1131 INDUSTRIAL DRIVE UNIT B WATKINSVILLE GA 30677
30677 WATKINSVILLE - LAKE WYLIE EURO4011 HANDS MILL HWY YORK SC 29745
29745 YORK - PERFORMANCE AUTO CARE4748 ATLANTA HWY FLOWERY BRANCH GA 30542
30542 FLOWERY BRANCH - MASTER TECH AUTO623 4TH ST SW STE 5 HICKORY NC 28602
28602 HICKORY - GMP PERFORMANCE710 PRESSLEY RD CHARLOTTE NC 28217
28217 CHARLOTTE - S L K AUTOMOTIVE INC6150 S TRYON ST CHARLOTTE NC 28203
28203 CHARLOTTE - UNITED SPEED RACING1847 CANTON HWY SUITE 3 CUMMING GA 30040
30040 CUMMING - AUTOHAUS LAKE NORMAN7870 COMMERCE DRIVE DENVER NC 28166
- ZEN MOTORS3620 BURNETTE PARK DR SUITE D SUWANEE GA 30024
30024 SUWANEE - FREED PERFORMANCE6075 PARKWAY N DR CUMMING GA 30040
30040 CUMMING - TOPSPEED MOTORSPORTS2130 BRANDON TRAIL ALPHARETTA GA 30004
30004 ALPHARETTA - GERMAN CAR REPAIR, INC.6070 ATLANTA HWY
ALPHARETTA,GA 30004 - EUROFED AUTOMOTIVE3150 MAIN ST WEST SNELLVILLE GA 30078
30078 SNELLVILLE - TOURING CAR, INC.300 SEABOARD DR MATTHEWS NC 28104
28104 MATTHEWS - BROTHERS AUTO SERVICE13607 E INDEPENDANCE EXPY INDIAN TRAIL NC 28079
28079 INDIAN TRAIL - TOP AUTOMOTIVE INC4826-F UNIONVILLE INDIAN TRAIL RD INDIAN TRAIL NC 28079
28079 INDIAN TRAIL - SOLO MOTORSPORTS6000 JIMMY CARTER BLVD NORCROSS GA 30071
30071 NORCROSS - SUPERIOR AUTOHAUS2965 HOLCOMB BRIDGE RD STE B3 ALPHARETTA GA 30022
30022 ALPHARETTA - KNOXVILLE PERFORMANCE & DYNO TUNING CENTER10919 MURDOCK DR KNOXVILLE TN 37932
37932 KNOXVILLE - GERMAN MOTORS1241 KONNAROCK RD KINGSPORT TN 37664
37664 KINGSPORT - BAVARIAN REPAIR204 BELL PL WOODSTOCK GA 30188
30188 WOODSTOCK - KARMA VW REPAIR3047 ALCOVE DRIVE SCOTDALE GA 30079
30079 SCOTDALE - SPORT MOTORING, LLC2846 E PONCE DE LEON AVE DECATUR GA 30030
30030 DECATUR
Former Vendor
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From: Alpharetta, GA
Motul is all we have been using in our two 991 development cars and big HP GT-Rs for years and years! Glad to be associated with you guys!
We keep everything in stock here in GA at our facility so if we can help anyone please let us know.
We keep everything in stock here in GA at our facility so if we can help anyone please let us know.
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From: Cypress, CA
Thank you for the endorsement! PM me if you guys need anything out there from us! -Nick
Three Wheelin'
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This thread led me to do some research as my 2000mi break-in period on the Carrera T is now over. I'll be changing over to the 8100 0w40 X-Max tomorrow and running a Blackstone analysis on the factory fill. Will post back on my findings. Thank you for your support of this community!
cheers!
cheers!
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Former Vendor
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From: Cypress, CA
This thread led me to do some research as my 2000mi break-in period on the Carrera T is now over. I'll be changing over to the 8100 0w40 X-Max tomorrow and running a Blackstone analysis on the factory fill. Will post back on my findings. Thank you for your support of this community!
cheers!
cheers!
Keep in mind the first 2 or 3 oil changes when the car is new will have increased wear metals due to the fresh engine. -Nick
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From: Northern VA
Hi there! Can you tell me about your carbon buildup product for use in DFI engines like the 991? I am working with a local mechanic to find the best cleaning solution, and it's either physical tear-down and clean, use of your new product specifically for the carbon buildup on the backs of valves, or perhaps both. Any details and real-world experiences you could share would be great.
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From: Cypress, CA
Unfortunately, we do not have a local Minneapolis based distributor at the moment. However, we do have many distributors that sell into the Minneapolis market and I can get more info for you if what I provide is not sufficient. Below are shops that are local to you that carry our product or can order it for you.- Nick
Last edited by Motul; Sep 17, 2018 at 03:55 PM.
Thread Starter
Former Vendor
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From: Cypress, CA
Hi there! Can you tell me about your carbon buildup product for use in DFI engines like the 991? I am working with a local mechanic to find the best cleaning solution, and it's either physical tear-down and clean, use of your new product specifically for the carbon buildup on the backs of valves, or perhaps both. Any details and real-world experiences you could share would be great.
There are many reputable brands that have solutions in cleaning the carbon off of valves on DFI/GDI systems. At the moment we do not sell our chemical line in the US due to compliance issues (labeling mainly). -Nick
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From: Granger Indiana
It's time for a brake fluid change on my 16 GTS. Will be doing it myself. Have regularly used RBF 600 in many other performance vehicles. When you say the 660 is better performing, would you recommend the 600 or 660 for a street driven application? By chance does the 660 extend the 2 year change interval that Porsche recommends?
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It's time for a brake fluid change on my 16 GTS. Will be doing it myself. Have regularly used RBF 600 in many other performance vehicles. When you say the 660 is better performing, would you recommend the 600 or 660 for a street driven application? By chance does the 660 extend the 2 year change interval that Porsche recommends?
The 660 is better performing in the sense of dry boiling point 617 F vs 596 F, a fair but not gigantic difference. But at 2x the price, I don't think 660 is the right recommendation for a street application when you can still get a very high performing product in the 600 at a more reasonable cost point. Both the 600 and 660 will have identical performance at the wet boiling point which is more of a real world indicator of performance on a street car (wet boiling point is measured at 3% water concentration- over time brake fluid will absorb moisture). That being said, the 660 would not extend the drain interval, just a more expensive fluid change vs the 600. -Nick
