Soul 200 cell cats for 991.2 GTS
06-24-2018, 07:20 PM
#31
Soul: I dont want to rain on your comments, but I feel compelled to reply.
I would bet my last dollar that there are others, perhaps many others, who have not commented here who have the same issues..
At the end of the day you guys are tops in my opinion as far as being available to troubleshoot and offer to compensate. Thats enough for me.
I would bet my last dollar that there are others, perhaps many others, who have not commented here who have the same issues..
At the end of the day you guys are tops in my opinion as far as being available to troubleshoot and offer to compensate. Thats enough for me.
It's good that companies like SOUL offer a budget option. As with all budget options there come little niggly issues. Some people are good with that. I'm not that guy. I always will pay more, not to have these issues.
The thing is with that, if I have paid more, they better bloody deliver first go without excuse. Or you would be reading about it. But there are no such threads about poorly fitting Akras.
It's age old and still has never changed. You only get what you pay for.
06-25-2018, 02:46 PM
#32
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Soul: I dont want to rain on your comments, but I feel compelled to reply.
You have made/sold 4 dozen of these and in this thread alone you have 4 people making the same complaint. Thats 10% of production and thats just on one thread, in one forum for one group of owners. I would bet my last dollar that there are others, perhaps many others, who have not commented here who have the same issues.. This is a fabrication problem.
To lay the blame on the heat warpage is possible, but why hasn't the heat affected the passenger side cat? Always the drivers side. And to be honest, if the cat is assembled on a jig and allowed to cool, it cant really warp because the jig should keep it stationary until its cool and at that point its fixed.
Finally, to lay the blame on the new fabricator is also convenient but, we have guys on this thread that have installed them this month with the latest production batch (me), two months ago and even 6-12 months ago. These have been in production since July of 2017, so how new is the fabricator when it spans across the entire production range?
At the end of the day you guys are tops in my opinion as far as being available to troubleshoot and offer to compensate. Thats enough for me. I just think your position should have been "look, we understand that some of the cats are having fitment issues and we will immediately look into the issues and correct them". Thats it. Product is excellent and speaks for itself, man up and just correct the issue and move on.
You have made/sold 4 dozen of these and in this thread alone you have 4 people making the same complaint. Thats 10% of production and thats just on one thread, in one forum for one group of owners. I would bet my last dollar that there are others, perhaps many others, who have not commented here who have the same issues.. This is a fabrication problem.
To lay the blame on the heat warpage is possible, but why hasn't the heat affected the passenger side cat? Always the drivers side. And to be honest, if the cat is assembled on a jig and allowed to cool, it cant really warp because the jig should keep it stationary until its cool and at that point its fixed.
Finally, to lay the blame on the new fabricator is also convenient but, we have guys on this thread that have installed them this month with the latest production batch (me), two months ago and even 6-12 months ago. These have been in production since July of 2017, so how new is the fabricator when it spans across the entire production range?
At the end of the day you guys are tops in my opinion as far as being available to troubleshoot and offer to compensate. Thats enough for me. I just think your position should have been "look, we understand that some of the cats are having fitment issues and we will immediately look into the issues and correct them". Thats it. Product is excellent and speaks for itself, man up and just correct the issue and move on.
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06-25-2018, 03:03 PM
#33
No worries, all your points are valid. I tend to extrapolate by habit in the interest of transparency. This is definitely a problem and we take it very seriously. I alluded to the number as we are just now finding out the scale and scope of the situation and we are moving on a plan to evaluate and address it. Experience of the fabricators aside, we need to ensure that there is no way they can leave without fitting vehicles, and that is the current mission. I'll be sure to keep everyone updated, and if anyone is having issues or concerns no matter how small, we always want to hear about it and we need to hear about it so we can know how to improve!
06-25-2018, 06:03 PM
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06-26-2018, 10:58 AM
#36
As soon as someone install 200cell sport cats can the Porsche Diagnosis tool recognise it?.
I am referring to the electronic tool and not the Porsche engineer who will see obviously the after market cats.
To make it more straight forward. If I install the sport cats do I have a risk to loose my Porsche warranty as it is going to be identified from the diagnosis tool?
I am referring to the electronic tool and not the Porsche engineer who will see obviously the after market cats.
To make it more straight forward. If I install the sport cats do I have a risk to loose my Porsche warranty as it is going to be identified from the diagnosis tool?
06-26-2018, 11:25 AM
#38
As soon as someone install 200cell sport cats can the Porsche Diagnosis tool recognise it?.
I am referring to the electronic tool and not the Porsche engineer who will see obviously the after market cats.
To make it more straight forward. If I install the sport cats do I have a risk to loose my Porsche warranty as it is going to be identified from the diagnosis tool?
I am referring to the electronic tool and not the Porsche engineer who will see obviously the after market cats.
To make it more straight forward. If I install the sport cats do I have a risk to loose my Porsche warranty as it is going to be identified from the diagnosis tool?
Voiding warranty for any downstream exhaust mods from the turbo is extremely unlikley. The only event I could think that would do that would be a cat failure or a decrease to the diameter of the exhaust path.
06-28-2018, 03:01 PM
#39
the 200 cell cats do not throw codes, so you should be fine. The lambda sensors are picking up voltage within their acceptable range of tolerance so the car just adjusts trims slightly.
Voiding warranty for any downstream exhaust mods from the turbo is extremely unlikley. The only event I could think that would do that would be a cat failure or a decrease to the diameter of the exhaust path.
Voiding warranty for any downstream exhaust mods from the turbo is extremely unlikley. The only event I could think that would do that would be a cat failure or a decrease to the diameter of the exhaust path.
Very kindly explain me that for a brand new car is not a good idea to install any after market tunning that might be recognised from the diagnosis tool in case of amy failure and warranty claims.
He suggested to enjoy the car and consider any updates/upgrades free of mind after warranty expiration.
06-28-2018, 03:24 PM
#40
Talk with my engineer at Porsche dealer and he kindly ask me not to install any cats as the car is brand new and under warranty.
Very kindly explain me that for a brand new car is not a good idea to install any after market tunning that might be recognised from the diagnosis tool in case of amy failure and warranty claims.
He suggested to enjoy the car and consider any updates/upgrades free of mind after warranty expiration.
Very kindly explain me that for a brand new car is not a good idea to install any after market tunning that might be recognised from the diagnosis tool in case of amy failure and warranty claims.
He suggested to enjoy the car and consider any updates/upgrades free of mind after warranty expiration.
Its your call my man. You know the risks and the rewards, everyone has to make their own educated decision.
06-28-2018, 03:35 PM
#41
He told me if you are willing to deal with this situation to rely on PAG for an investigation and analysis go forward. If you prefer to have the upper hand during warranty period do not go.
In any case I believe as soon as I get the car and be used to it after a few months I will proceed with some mods (Cobb+cats).
06-28-2018, 03:44 PM
#42
Talk with my engineer at Porsche dealer and he kindly ask me not to install any cats as the car is brand new and under warranty.
Very kindly explain me that for a brand new car is not a good idea to install any after market tunning that might be recognised from the diagnosis tool in case of amy failure and warranty claims.
He suggested to enjoy the car and consider any updates/upgrades free of mind after warranty expiration.
Very kindly explain me that for a brand new car is not a good idea to install any after market tunning that might be recognised from the diagnosis tool in case of amy failure and warranty claims.
He suggested to enjoy the car and consider any updates/upgrades free of mind after warranty expiration.
09-29-2018, 01:23 PM
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No worries, all your points are valid. I tend to extrapolate by habit in the interest of transparency. This is definitely a problem and we take it very seriously. I alluded to the number as we are just now finding out the scale and scope of the situation and we are moving on a plan to evaluate and address it. Experience of the fabricators aside, we need to ensure that there is no way they can leave without fitting vehicles, and that is the current mission. I'll be sure to keep everyone updated, and if anyone is having issues or concerns no matter how small, we always want to hear about it and we need to hear about it so we can know how to improve!
09-29-2018, 02:31 PM
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I am wondering if this fitment issue has been corrected since I am looking at having hi-flow cats installed on my car at the dealer when it arrives. Soul cats are at the top of my list but if the dealer has a fitment problem it will either cost me a lot more money to install them or they will not be able to and I will have to look for another shop.
09-29-2018, 07:37 PM
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I am wondering if this fitment issue has been corrected since I am looking at having hi-flow cats installed on my car at the dealer when it arrives. Soul cats are at the top of my list but if the dealer has a fitment problem it will either cost me a lot more money to install them or they will not be able to and I will have to look for another shop.