dmk2

We have all come the to love and enjoy the rear-engined 911, but your most competitive cars continue to illustrate the virtues of mid-engine design in endurance racing.

Please create and allow us to purchase a full-fledged Cayman, or give us the mid-engined Carrera that you are winning with.

Tradition should not impede progress.

DMK2

My own garage:
987.1 Cayman S (ordered by me and owned since new)
991.2 Carrera GTS (ordered by me and owned since new)
GT4 (ordered by me, recently sold, and sorely missed)

dmk2

Please chime in if you support this opinion. Lets give Porsche more reasons to give us a mid-engined Carrera.

Ironically, Corvette may just force their hand.

minthral

Do you endurance race?

I don't.

minthral

Mid engine carerra would eliminate the rear seats. I want those.

I like prominently RWD drive carerra that also powers the front wheels lightly and more when needed. That's only practical and possible with the engine in the rear. Other front engine cars send power to the rear, and then back to the front in a U in a complicated with plenty of power loss. Difficult to have AWD in a mid engine...you need AWD to put the power down and it improves handling in real world conditions.

Go buy a cayman if you want mid engine. The flat 4 is really quick and doesn't sound THAT bad. A car already exists that you want.

dmk2

No, but the dynamic virtues of mid-engine placement for a regular guy like me are too obvious to ignore.

Thus, cars like the GT4 exist.

As you are aware, racing proves the technology. Racing also makes Porsche a lot of money. Another victory with mid-engine placement can give Porsche another reason to make more money.

Capisce?

minthral

I disagree. 'Use the right tool for the right job' is the way I see it. Just because it works on the race trace doesn't mean it works on the street. Though they can be taken to the track, these are NOT race cars.

I had a 981 boxster and mid engine handling in corners is great, but the 911 with AWD, rear steering, PDCC, etc is much much better. Flatter, faster, easier. They can't fit that stuff in a Cayman.

RWD, mid engine is very twitchy in bad weather and easy to send into a spin. The engine technically isn't even in the middle... its more like rear, but not as far as 911, which they are slowly moving closer to the center by a few inches every generation.

IMO, I wouldn't drink the marketing 'mid engine' cool-aid. Corvette needs to move the engine to the back because their cars have so much power its unusable with RWD. You just spin the wheels all day.

dmk2

I am not saying they don't make a mid-engine car. Like many here, I too own them. I am saying they should stop neutering it.

Only the 911 will reign supreme...

dmk2

Comparing an AWD rear-engine car to a RWD mid-ending car isn't quite what I was going for, but I get your point.

Looks like you and Porsche get my point as well. As you say, "they are slowly moving closer to the center by a few inches every generation".

My kid hasn't fit in any 911 I have owned since she was 4.

verstraete

Maybe I am just old school, but a mid engine Porsche is not a 911. At the same time, I have no objection to a fully developed 6-cylinder mid engine Cayman, or whatever else Porsche decides to call it. If the present Cayman design cannot accommodate a 6 cylinder turbo engine, design a replacement that can, but maintain the 911 for those of us who prefer the traditional configuration.

dmk2

Verstraete, we can all hope for such a car from Porsche regardless of what they call it.

Although, they have called them Carrera GT in the past. However, we need a daily usable version.

subshooter

I'm with you. I think Porsche should let each chassis fulfill their potential. A GT3 engine in a Cayman/Spyder is what they should produce. We will soon see.

dmk2

Agreed, subshooter.

9914s

koala

You and me both. I'd love to have a GT3 Touring... but it's still missing the back seats.

dmk2