911 T owners club
02-18-2022 | 11:29 AM
#5071
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From: Johns Island, SC
r.e. "selling to maximize profit" Guess it depends on how you measure profit. You can croak with too much money but you can't croak with too much happiness.
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02-18-2022 | 11:35 AM
#5072
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From: At the outer marker...
Yikes. I am not sure I want to answer that… but here goes… Especially for all of those soon after me that have this coming.
And, a quick search, and it seems that 20k / 4 year service outrage threads appear quite regularly on the Rennlist.
First, I would tell you that (since i have the AP Racing BBK, and did a brake fluid flush, I told them to not touch the brake fluid - which would have likely added another few hundred.)
So, the cost was $1,990… six spark plugs, engine filter… and the other normal oil change / filters. The labor was around $1,600 and the rest was parts. It took the tech the better part of a full work day. (I got there at 7:30am… they had to let it cool for an hour… but didn’t seem to start until 11am… and worked right up to closing at 6pm.)
And, a quick search, and it seems that 20k / 4 year service outrage threads appear quite regularly on the Rennlist.
First, I would tell you that (since i have the AP Racing BBK, and did a brake fluid flush, I told them to not touch the brake fluid - which would have likely added another few hundred.)
So, the cost was $1,990… six spark plugs, engine filter… and the other normal oil change / filters. The labor was around $1,600 and the rest was parts. It took the tech the better part of a full work day. (I got there at 7:30am… they had to let it cool for an hour… but didn’t seem to start until 11am… and worked right up to closing at 6pm.)
02-18-2022 | 02:20 PM
#5073
Burning Brakes
Joined: Feb 2018
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From: Portlandia
I have saved Alex C’s YT on how he changed his own oil.. but I am happy to give this car some love…. Err… all my hard earned bucks. But, in other news, my 2022 track / tire / fuel budget this year has been diverted into the Avant and a PC for simracing, so keeping the miles for wine collection trips.
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02-18-2022 | 03:58 PM
#5075
Pro
Joined: Feb 2017
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From: Chicago Area
they should release a NA 3.0 with everything stripped out - 19/20 inch wheels, sport bumper and fixed wing, no rear seats, no sound deadening, no carpets, carbon roof, full lightweight glass, aws, pdk, no sunroof, no fancy speakers or rain sensors, or lazy man auto-handles, in black/white/yellow/red only.
Then I’ll trade in my 991.2 T or a kidney for it… 😎 …. but it’s good to have dreams.
02-18-2022 | 04:16 PM
#5076
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they should release a NA 3.0 with everything stripped out - 19/20 inch wheels, sport bumper and fixed wing, no rear seats, no sound deadening, no carpets, carbon roof, full lightweight glass, aws, pdk, no sunroof, no fancy speakers or rain sensors, or lazy man auto-handles, in black/white/yellow/red only.
Then I’ll trade in my 991.2 T or a kidney for it… 😎 …. but it’s good to have dreams.
Then I’ll trade in my 991.2 T or a kidney for it… 😎 …. but it’s good to have dreams.
02-19-2022 | 09:32 AM
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02-19-2022 | 10:15 AM
#5078
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991.2 T, 718 T, Macan T...have all been BASE engine at the end of model cycle. Why do you think they would change the formula for 992 and plop in a "unique" engine? The business case is take something with sunk costs, and do something to try to make it special, with minimal to no investment, to drive a few additional sales.
02-19-2022 | 11:17 AM
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Yikes. I am not sure I want to answer that… but here goes… Especially for all of those soon after me that have this coming.
And, a quick search, and it seems that 20k / 4 year service outrage threads appear quite regularly on the Rennlist.
First, I would tell you that (since i have the AP Racing BBK, and did a brake fluid flush, I told them to not touch the brake fluid - which would have likely added another few hundred.)
So, the cost was $1,990… six spark plugs, engine filter… and the other normal oil change / filters. The labor was around $1,600 and the rest was parts. It took the tech the better part of a full work day. (I got there at 7:30am… they had to let it cool for an hour… but didn’t seem to start until 11am… and worked right up to closing at 6pm.)
(It has been a good week for me to invest in car maintenance - I decided to treat my lovely A4 Avant to new pistons/seals, because ‘oil consumption’, which ended up costing $10k, which is more than the car is worth. But let’s not get into that questionable decision.)
And, a quick search, and it seems that 20k / 4 year service outrage threads appear quite regularly on the Rennlist.
First, I would tell you that (since i have the AP Racing BBK, and did a brake fluid flush, I told them to not touch the brake fluid - which would have likely added another few hundred.)
So, the cost was $1,990… six spark plugs, engine filter… and the other normal oil change / filters. The labor was around $1,600 and the rest was parts. It took the tech the better part of a full work day. (I got there at 7:30am… they had to let it cool for an hour… but didn’t seem to start until 11am… and worked right up to closing at 6pm.)
(It has been a good week for me to invest in car maintenance - I decided to treat my lovely A4 Avant to new pistons/seals, because ‘oil consumption’, which ended up costing $10k, which is more than the car is worth. But let’s not get into that questionable decision.)
02-19-2022 | 12:09 PM
#5080
Racer
Joined: Aug 2016
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From: SF Bay Area
At no point did I say it was definitely going to happen nor that they would develop an entirely new 3.0. I don't see anyone else in this thread saying that either, I'm not really sure where that came from.
See: https://www.motor1.com/news/564934/p...-facelift-spy/
The smart money is a sticker and option pack with an MT option on the existing base Carrera, but Porsche is capable of pulling a wild-card move (much like the 718 4.0 GTS) and I think it would be an instant classic / hype machine.
If Porsche pulls this move this dope will be gratified to be proved correct
Thought the 'Carrera T' community was better than this.
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02-20-2022 | 10:59 AM
#5082
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If Porsche were to stick with the ethos of the original 911T, then the 992 T would have a less powerful engine than the ‘base’ Carrera, with less standard equipment and at a lower price point. The original T was introduced as a model to fit below the standard 911, to be the new entry-level 911. It initially had 110hp (compared to 130hp for the standard 911) and a four-speed gearbox. 🤓
02-20-2022 | 11:25 AM
#5083
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It’s definitely been said in here a few times that BMW apparently owns “Club sport” monicker therefore they reached for the T which is in the past not necessarily for its past ethos. When this new-aged 991.2 T came out it was the lightest version of the Carrera lineup with all the sport focused, not touring focused, enhancements. It had the right balance of power/weight ratio, suspension dynamics, and gearing enhancements to make it what it is. Porsche didn’t just throw it together for a badge but designed it then were left with what to call it. But now that Porsche is throwing the T on other lineups that don’t follow that development, this is my speculation since I haven’t driven a Maycan T, it will negatively impact future T “specialness” that comes from a deliberately designed and tested vehicle for driving dynamics. But yes, if it held to the T of the 1968-1970s it would be cheaper, less powerful with none of the sport goodies.
02-20-2022 | 12:41 PM
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It’s definitely been said in here a few times that BMW apparently owns “Club sport” monicker therefore they reached for the T which is in the past not necessarily for its past ethos. When this new-aged 991.2 T came out it was the lightest version of the Carrera lineup with all the sport focused, not touring focused, enhancements. It had the right balance of power/weight ratio, suspension dynamics, and gearing enhancements to make it what it is. Porsche didn’t just throw it together for a badge but designed it then were left with what to call it. But now that Porsche is throwing the T on other lineups that don’t follow that development, this is my speculation since I haven’t driven a Maycan T, it will negatively impact future T “specialness” that comes from a deliberately designed and tested vehicle for driving dynamics. But yes, if it held to the T of the 1968-1970s it would be cheaper, less powerful with none of the sport goodies.
The Cayenne Turbo GT is a great example.
oh and let’s not forget the Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo
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