991.1 vs 991.2 Fight Club Thread
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Faster Mclarens I've driven were nowhere near as exhilarating.
As for the .2, the first 4 seconds of this clip NAILS IT.
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Both .1 & .2 cars are pretty quiet with the PSE, let alone stock exhaust.
I certainly wouldn't out a 991.anything on a top 10 list of my favorite exhaust notes. Admittedly sound is subjective but this whole argument has gotten so blown out of proportion in a 991 forum.
I wouldn't have bought a Porsche if all I was looking for a "soul" or and exotic exhaust/engine sound. I would have bought something from the Italians.
I bought a Porsche for the engineering and pedigree. The turbos are the height of the performance and technology in the 911 line. Offering all the cars as "turbo's" is not even a departure from tradition in Porsche 911. Its just now standard to keep the cars competitive with taxes, emission and segment performance numbers.
Exhaust sound is also easily modifiable, Im confident that with a little tweaking I'll find the perfect exhaust setup..
Why is no one ****ting on the past turbo models including the 991.1's, because they all sound good!
I personally also find the sound of turbo spool (and the following acceleration) intoxicating. I think everyone should give it a try, its the way of the future!
I certainly wouldn't out a 991.anything on a top 10 list of my favorite exhaust notes. Admittedly sound is subjective but this whole argument has gotten so blown out of proportion in a 991 forum.
I wouldn't have bought a Porsche if all I was looking for a "soul" or and exotic exhaust/engine sound. I would have bought something from the Italians.
I bought a Porsche for the engineering and pedigree. The turbos are the height of the performance and technology in the 911 line. Offering all the cars as "turbo's" is not even a departure from tradition in Porsche 911. Its just now standard to keep the cars competitive with taxes, emission and segment performance numbers.
Exhaust sound is also easily modifiable, Im confident that with a little tweaking I'll find the perfect exhaust setup..
Why is no one ****ting on the past turbo models including the 991.1's, because they all sound good!
I personally also find the sound of turbo spool (and the following acceleration) intoxicating. I think everyone should give it a try, its the way of the future!
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I had some of the best driving experiences of my life obliterating a rental Huracan because the sound was so intoxicating.
Faster Mclarens I've driven were nowhere near as exhilarating.
As for the .2, the first 4 seconds of this clip NAILS IT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiItnQaLIug
Faster Mclarens I've driven were nowhere near as exhilarating.
As for the .2, the first 4 seconds of this clip NAILS IT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiItnQaLIug
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Some of you must have loud vacuum cleaners.
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Originally Posted by ///M3THOD
Both .1 & .2 cars are pretty quiet with the PSE, let alone stock exhaust.
I certainly wouldn't out a 991.anything on a top 10 list of my favorite exhaust notes. Admittedly sound is subjective but this whole argument has gotten so blown out of proportion in a 991 forum.
I wouldn't have bought a Porsche if all I was looking for a "soul" or and exotic exhaust/engine sound. I would have bought something from the Italians.
I bought a Porsche for the engineering and pedigree. The turbos are the height of the performance and technology in the 911 line. Offering all the cars as "turbo's" is not even a departure from tradition in Porsche 911. Its just now standard to keep the cars competitive with taxes, emission and segment performance numbers.
Exhaust sound is also easily modifiable, Im confident that with a little tweaking I'll find the perfect exhaust setup..
Why is no one ****ting on the past turbo models including the 991.1's, because they all sound good!
I personally also find the sound of turbo spool (and the following acceleration) intoxicating. I think everyone should give it a try, its the way of the future!
I certainly wouldn't out a 991.anything on a top 10 list of my favorite exhaust notes. Admittedly sound is subjective but this whole argument has gotten so blown out of proportion in a 991 forum.
I wouldn't have bought a Porsche if all I was looking for a "soul" or and exotic exhaust/engine sound. I would have bought something from the Italians.
I bought a Porsche for the engineering and pedigree. The turbos are the height of the performance and technology in the 911 line. Offering all the cars as "turbo's" is not even a departure from tradition in Porsche 911. Its just now standard to keep the cars competitive with taxes, emission and segment performance numbers.
Exhaust sound is also easily modifiable, Im confident that with a little tweaking I'll find the perfect exhaust setup..
Why is no one ****ting on the past turbo models including the 991.1's, because they all sound good!
I personally also find the sound of turbo spool (and the following acceleration) intoxicating. I think everyone should give it a try, its the way of the future!
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I had this exact setup on my 991.2 C2S before I traded and got the 991.2 GTS.
Its no where near as loud as that video would suggest. Its rowdy for sure, but that video is not an accurate portrayal of what it sounds like at all.
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Disclaimer: I’ve previously owned two NA 911’s and I now own a 991.2. I admit that a NA engine sounds better than a comparable FI, including the car I currently own.
Here’s what I don’t get:
Approximately 90% of 991.1 owners purchased an S over a base because...wait for it...the S is faster than the base. Then all of the sudden, when the 991.2 is faster than a 991.1, speed/power isn’t important anymore. Which is it? Either the faster engine is important, or it’s not. The .1 S owners are going to respond that it’s the other options available in the S that influenced their decision, but I’m not buying it. It’s the engine. I find it hard to believe (and maybe oddly coincidental) that the 991.1S is the optimal amount of quickness. Less power, (the 3.4 engine) isn’t enough, and the 3.0T is unnecessarily fast. IMHO, in a comparable car, faster beats slower all day, every day.
I’d like to add that I’ve had 991.1 loaners. I think they’re awesome cars and that I would be extremely happy with either a .1 or a .2. OK, maybe a little more with the latter.
Here’s what I don’t get:
Approximately 90% of 991.1 owners purchased an S over a base because...wait for it...the S is faster than the base. Then all of the sudden, when the 991.2 is faster than a 991.1, speed/power isn’t important anymore. Which is it? Either the faster engine is important, or it’s not. The .1 S owners are going to respond that it’s the other options available in the S that influenced their decision, but I’m not buying it. It’s the engine. I find it hard to believe (and maybe oddly coincidental) that the 991.1S is the optimal amount of quickness. Less power, (the 3.4 engine) isn’t enough, and the 3.0T is unnecessarily fast. IMHO, in a comparable car, faster beats slower all day, every day.
I’d like to add that I’ve had 991.1 loaners. I think they’re awesome cars and that I would be extremely happy with either a .1 or a .2. OK, maybe a little more with the latter.
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^well said.
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I blame the room acoustics that which likely amplified the sound.
#FakeNews
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Please. Would love to hear it. Just googled the price for the headers and it's ~2300 i figure install is few hours or 1000ish?
Good to know of this as an option if we should ever take the fart can route![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
One can only put up with a slow-as-hell .1GTS for so long!
Of course I kid but my DD is going on 7yrs so sooner or later decisions will have to be made...
Good to know of this as an option if we should ever take the fart can route
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One can only put up with a slow-as-hell .1GTS for so long!
Of course I kid but my DD is going on 7yrs so sooner or later decisions will have to be made...
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Please. Would love to hear it. Just googled the price for the headers and it's ~2300 i figure install is few hours or 1000ish?
Good to know of this as an option if we should ever take the fart can route![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
One can only put up with a slow-as-hell .1GTS for so long!
Of course I kid but my DD is going on 7yrs so sooner or later decisions will have to be made...
Good to know of this as an option if we should ever take the fart can route
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One can only put up with a slow-as-hell .1GTS for so long!
Of course I kid but my DD is going on 7yrs so sooner or later decisions will have to be made...
The cat bypass pipes are primarily where the sound is coming from (as well as ~20rwhp, C2S, stock tune)
Ill look for my video. Ive got it somewhere, as well as a dyno.