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991.2 Pros: I own one finally. C4S, MT. Love it. Love the low-end torque of the turbo engines and the various refinements to the gearbox, PASM and interior as well.
991.1: Cons: I didn't buy one when I could have when it was new. But I love the sound of the 3.8 L much more (without PSE thank you). That's all.
Both are very nice cars. I like the 4s models. My favorites in the 911 lineup
I love this thread. Come on #2 guys, get busy with the insults!
Where’s Sticky and his base fart can vacuum when you need him? Trapping speed again?
How did Porsche build such a soulless technological marvel?
Ok back to my slow .1 carriage
I love this thread. Come on #2 guys, get busy with the insults!
I'm not an insult guy. I love the 991.1 but my timing was off for the GTS and I only buy new. So I got the 991.2 C4. Love it. The thing is fricken fast too.
This whole thing about exhaust note reminds me when we were 16 with our first cars. My friend's was a Sunbeam Alpine and mine was a Cortina. We had the brilliant idea to remove the resonator on our cars to get that perfect exhaust note. I lived five blocks from his girlfriend's house, and could hear him leaving from a late night date.
My next car was Fiat 124 Spider, and within a week I had an ANSA exhaust on it. That one sounded great to my young ears.
Most recently, I had a 2016 Cayman with the 2.7L engine it it. It sounded raucous when wound up and I loved it. I do miss the exhaust note, but the torque makes up for the difference. The 991.2 C2 is a wonderful drivers car, IMO. I think this upcoming "T" model is almost perfect... for me.
I'm not an insult guy. I love the 991.1 but my timing was off for the GTS and I only buy new. So I got the 991.2 C4. Love it. The thing is fricken fast too.
I need to get my behind to a dealer to hear a .2 specimen with a PSE. The one I test drove was pure base, stock exhaust so not exactly a fair comparison to a 991.1 GTS
I need to get my behind to a dealer to hear a .2 specimen with a PSE. The one I test drove was pure base, stock exhaust so not exactly a fair comparison to a 991.1 GTS
Sound is a really important experience for me in a sports car. Before I bought my 991.2, I flew down to PEC-Atlanta so that I could hear them inside the car and also along side the racetrack. Spending $121k on a new car is a lot so I wanted to be satisfied with my purchase.
I also own a 981 Boxster S (NA with PSE) which is my reference point and it just sounds fantastic. The 991.2 was much more muted but I thought sounded really good in the cabin. On the track, (as I watched and listened to them race by), it sounded really quiet even with PSE on. At the time, Porsche also had the 991.1 GTS, GT4, and Spyder on the track at the same time - totally different sound especially from a bystander's perspective. I love the NA engine exhaust sound. .....but I'm not a bystander so I only care about how the 991.2 sounds to me. I think it is pretty good.
This whole thing about exhaust note reminds me when we were 16 with our first cars. My friend's was a Sunbeam Alpine and mine was a Cortina. We had the brilliant idea to remove the resonator on our cars to get that perfect exhaust note. I lived five blocks from his girlfriend's house, and could hear him leaving from a late night date.
My next car was Fiat 124 Spider, and within a week I had an ANSA exhaust on it. That one sounded great to my young ears.
Most recently, I had a 2016 Cayman with the 2.7L engine it it. It sounded raucous when wound up and I loved it. I do miss the exhaust note, but the torque makes up for the difference. The 991.2 C2 is a wonderful drivers car, IMO. I think this upcoming "T" model is almost perfect... for me.
With all due respect to my .1 brothers from different mothers- the only argument you've got is the exhaust sound- and a subjective argument at that. Is this maybe a bit of jealousy for the extra power in the .2? For the fact that a base .2 will run with, if not ahead of a .1S or even a .1GTS? Are you jealous that we have the option of running to 7k rpm, and if we want, we can shift at 3k and still feel a push in the back? Are you pis**d that we can put in 7th gear at 50 mph and forget about shifting if we so desire? How about our better brakes, refined steering, updated tech, lower emissions and improved fuel economy? Does it really annoy you that some folks spending $100k+ for a car may actually want it a little quieter, or that some of us who don't care to disturb our neighbors with a very noisy car? Despite the turbo, you can really connect with a .2.
I get it, I get, the .1 sounds better. Ok- YOU WIN. Full disclosure, I also own a real DYSON too! It doesn't sound like my 911.
EDIT- Oh- and the .2 doesn't have that dorky base (sad) steering wheel.
Last edited by PJ Cayenne; 10-31-2017 at 11:01 PM.
Sound is a really important experience for me in a sports car. Before I bought my 991.2, I flew down to PEC-Atlanta so that I could hear them inside the car and also along side the racetrack. Spending $121k on a new car is a lot so I wanted to be satisfied with my purchase.
I also own a 981 Boxster S (NA with PSE) which is my reference point and it just sounds fantastic. The 991.2 was much more muted but I thought sounded really good in the cabin. On the track, (as I watched and listened to them race by), it sounded really quiet even with PSE on. At the time, Porsche also had the 991.1 GTS, GT4, and Spyder on the track at the same time - totally different sound especially from a bystander's perspective. I love the NA engine exhaust sound. .....but I'm not a bystander so I only care about how the 991.2 sounds to me. I think it is pretty good.
sound is very key! Cars are getting so fast now days that it’s just not as fun.
10-31-2017, 06:08 PM
