911 Carrera T
#241
Ok, let’s see, because some of what you’re saying seems contradictory.
Previously you’d said that the 997 GT3’s rear tires were pointing away from the apex mid corner while the 991s GT3s with RWS were pointing towards it. Do you now agree that mid corner they are all pointing in the same direction, it’s the angle of the vehicle bodies which is different?
Please point me to the link that says that sheer stress on the contact patch is effected in any way in the condition above. Mid corner, same tires, same direction, same loads- macro or micro is immaterial, the sheer stress is identical. I’d appreciate it if you could explain why you think otherwise.
Previously you’d said that the 997 GT3’s rear tires were pointing away from the apex mid corner while the 991s GT3s with RWS were pointing towards it. Do you now agree that mid corner they are all pointing in the same direction, it’s the angle of the vehicle bodies which is different?
Please point me to the link that says that sheer stress on the contact patch is effected in any way in the condition above. Mid corner, same tires, same direction, same loads- macro or micro is immaterial, the sheer stress is identical. I’d appreciate it if you could explain why you think otherwise.
#243
randr, wouldn't the higher normal force in the 911 result in higher friction resistance in the tire? Pete's graph shows that a significant amount of lateral force can be resisted in the tire even at high slip angles.
I believe there is something with RWS that decreases the lateral force in the tire which makes it able to travel faster through the corner. Like most materials the tire must be shearing to some extent to provide its ultimate resistance but it can still provide significant resistance below the peak.
So much of traction limit seems to be related to suspension movements and slight weight loading and unloading.
I believe there is something with RWS that decreases the lateral force in the tire which makes it able to travel faster through the corner. Like most materials the tire must be shearing to some extent to provide its ultimate resistance but it can still provide significant resistance below the peak.
So much of traction limit seems to be related to suspension movements and slight weight loading and unloading.
#245
Rennlist Member
Old thread, but I'll say that I have one of these now with a manual and RWS and I think it's basically a perfect car. For all around fun and enjoyment it's by far my favorite 911 I've ever had. I love the GT cars, but driving them should be an event - a special Mountain Drive, a Track Day, etc. DD'ing a GT car makes you numb to how special they are IMO.
I drive the Carrera T everywhere. In the rain, gravel roads, mountain runs, to the grocery store. And it dazzles me every. single. time. It's so perfectly packaged.
I drive the Carrera T everywhere. In the rain, gravel roads, mountain runs, to the grocery store. And it dazzles me every. single. time. It's so perfectly packaged.
#247
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by Gravs
Great to hear! How is steering feel compared to a GT? Have found regular 991s lifeless but they're supposed to be getting better.
#249
Three Wheelin'
sgroer; congrats, I'm with you, a great driver and a lot of fun daily driving with the low end torque.
Steering; The GT cars comes from the factory with a much more aggressive toe and camber than the T, so if you change those settings on your T, you will feel improvements in feel, feed back and turn in.
If you think the car is a little soft, Elephant racing offer a kit with increased spring stiffness and retains stock coil overs.
https://www.elephantracing.com/porsc...-kits-for-991/
Steering; The GT cars comes from the factory with a much more aggressive toe and camber than the T, so if you change those settings on your T, you will feel improvements in feel, feed back and turn in.
If you think the car is a little soft, Elephant racing offer a kit with increased spring stiffness and retains stock coil overs.
https://www.elephantracing.com/porsc...-kits-for-991/
#250
With that suspension upgrade and a simple Cobb tune and exhaust the car is pretty stout and fun!
#254
I am wondering this, too. I have two friends looking. I know one of them has been calling around a lot and he's had no luck. So I'm not sure if the T is done, at least in terms of speccable allocations. If anyone finds otherwise, I'd appreciate a heads up!
#255
Rennlist Member
They have made less than 800 T's for NA and allocations are very thin. My understanding is that there are a few sitting around.
I know of one T allocation at MSRP. PM me if you want the info.
I know of one T allocation at MSRP. PM me if you want the info.