Notices
991 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

911 Carrera T

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-26-2017, 02:18 AM
  #181  
Hit Apex
Instructor
 
Hit Apex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 194
Received 50 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

Are the standard brakes up for light track duty (10-20 events per year)?
Old 10-26-2017, 04:09 AM
  #182  
Mika911
Racer
 
Mika911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: London
Posts: 487
Received 34 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hit Apex
Are the standard brakes up for light track duty (10-20 events per year)?
Light duty for sure, though harder pads and more resistant brake fluid recommended. 10/20 events per year does not sound like 'light' track duty though..
Old 10-26-2017, 04:48 AM
  #183  
Jimmy Oldskool
2nd Gear
 
Jimmy Oldskool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TheQuick911
Now make a 991 with a 718 Cayman s engine and name it the 912 and make it cheeper
Watch this 992 shaped space......
Old 10-26-2017, 05:02 AM
  #184  
Jimmy Oldskool
2nd Gear
 
Jimmy Oldskool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

We seem to be a little less precious about 911T in the UK. I’ve taken 3 orders over the last 24 hrs from guys that are coming out of boring stuff like M4’s etc and want to jump into something a bit more special that they can just drive and enjoy...But also leave at the station or the shops and not worry about it.
With the cease of production of Carrera and Carrera S models early next year, the ‘T’ makes perfect sense as an entry level swan song for 991.2, and gives back an element of what most purists have been squealing about for the last few years...
Of course there are those people that you will never satisfy, but ask yourself this...which would you rather drive...This or an M4, etc, etc...

Incidentally, My build is going to be a White manual, PCCB, buckets, PCM delete and rear steer...perfect!

Last edited by Jimmy Oldskool; 10-26-2017 at 06:24 AM. Reason: Grammar
Old 10-26-2017, 06:10 AM
  #185  
motorwerksgroup
Burning Brakes
 
motorwerksgroup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan
Posts: 973
Received 393 Likes on 210 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by evilfij
Seems to me the poor man’s GT3 touring which was the poor man’s 911R.
Wasn't the GT3 Touring the Smart man's 911R?

sorry couldn't resist..
Old 10-26-2017, 06:47 AM
  #186  
Footsoldier
Burning Brakes
 
Footsoldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 999
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by motorwerksgroup
Wasn't the GT3 Touring the Smart man's 911R?

sorry couldn't resist..
Not if you're smart enough to get the R at MRSP
Old 10-26-2017, 08:06 AM
  #187  
JZ98-993
Racer
 
JZ98-993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 468
Received 46 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jimmy Oldskool
We seem to be a little less precious about 911T in the UK. I’ve taken 3 orders over the last 24 hrs from guys that are coming out of boring stuff like M4’s etc and want to jump into something a bit more special that they can just drive and enjoy...But also leave at the station or the shops and not worry about it.
With the cease of production of Carrera and Carrera S models early next year, the ‘T’ makes perfect sense as an entry level swan song for 991.2, and gives back an element of what most purists have been squealing about for the last few years...
Of course there are those people that you will never satisfy, but ask yourself this...which would you rather drive...This or an M4, etc, etc...

Incidentally, My build is going to be a White manual, PCCB, buckets, PCM delete and rear steer...perfect!
Not sure about U.K. , but in US not sure how you can compare an M4 to the T? Fully loaded m4 in the US is $75k, I played with the configuration with the 911 t and spec a few options (plus the requisite buckets) and you are $115k+. I dig the T but feel they missed the mark on price/value, car with buckets should have priced @ $100k mark. What do I know though, sure they'll sell a bunch of them and sounds like you're already getting orders
Old 10-26-2017, 08:40 AM
  #188  
Gravs
Three Wheelin'
 
Gravs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: London
Posts: 1,410
Likes: 0
Received 21 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jimmy Oldskool
We seem to be a little less precious about 911T in the UK. IÂ’ve taken 3 orders over the last 24 hrs from guys that are coming out of boring stuff like M4Â’s etc and want to jump into something a bit more special that they can just drive and enjoy...But also leave at the station or the shops and not worry about it.
With the cease of production of Carrera and Carrera S models early next year, the ‘T’ makes perfect sense as an entry level swan song for 991.2, and gives back an element of what most purists have been squealing about for the last few years...
Of course there are those people that you will never satisfy, but ask yourself this...which would you rather drive...This or an M4, etc, etc...

Incidentally, My build is going to be a White manual, PCCB, buckets, PCM delete and rear steer...perfect!
The perfect spec well done sir. Although that launch yellow looks good. Even with the white, are you going to get the yellow T interior to match your brakes?
Old 10-26-2017, 08:50 AM
  #189  
Freddie Two Bs
Drifting
 
Freddie Two Bs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,256
Received 462 Likes on 294 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JZ98-993
Not sure about U.K. , but in US not sure how you can compare an M4 to the T? Fully loaded m4 in the US is $75k, I played with the configuration with the 911 t and spec a few options (plus the requisite buckets) and you are $115k+. I dig the T but feel they missed the mark on price/value, car with buckets should have priced @ $100k mark.
Yes totally, price points are far apart.
Old 10-26-2017, 12:24 PM
  #190  
StudGarden
Burning Brakes
 
StudGarden's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Midwest
Posts: 1,108
Received 47 Likes on 27 Posts
Default

Just curious but what’s the massive appeal of RWS in a supposedly back to basics purist(ish) car?
Old 10-26-2017, 01:42 PM
  #191  
Hit Apex
Instructor
 
Hit Apex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SoCal
Posts: 194
Received 50 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mika911
Light duty for sure, though harder pads and more resistant brake fluid recommended. 10/20 events per year does not sound like 'light' track duty though..
These standard steel brakes are not the same standard kit that's on GT cars or the GTS? Just curious if this car will require PCCBs for 20 events a year, not that I'd prefer the PCCBs due to running costs.
Old 10-26-2017, 02:06 PM
  #192  
Petevb
Rennlist Member
 
Petevb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,728
Received 704 Likes on 282 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JZ98-993
I played with the configuration with the 911 t and spec a few options (plus the requisite buckets) and you are $115k+.
I don't see the wisdom of adding RWS or buckets to this car (in the US, anyway, where folding buckets are unavailable). You're carrying the weight of the rear seats without the ability to use them. Worse you're now in direct competition with the Spyder and GT4 below, cars that are roughly 25% cheaper.

The biggest remaining advantage Carrera T has vs its mid-engined siblings is that it drives like a 911, and the RWS is dialing that out.

I can see the buyer of a base Carrera T pretty clearly- someone who'd like to get a GT4 or Sypder but needs rear seats, PDK and/ or loves the rear engine experience. I can similarly see why many in that camp couldn't get a GT3T.

I have a lot more trouble understanding the buyer of a 111k+ manual Carrera T w/ buckets and RWS (availability of the alternatives excepted). I'd go for a lightly optioned Sypder/ GT4 or GT3T any day of the week.
Old 10-26-2017, 02:33 PM
  #193  
Archimedes
Race Director
 
Archimedes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 13,163
Received 3,858 Likes on 1,902 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Petevb
I don't see the wisdom of adding RWS or buckets to this car (in the US, anyway, where folding buckets are unavailable). You're carrying the weight of the rear seats without the ability to use them.
.
I thought the rear seats were deleted if you specc'd LWBs, no?

Longer driving video here. Looks cool, but man that sound is bloody awful. I just couldn't drive around in a car that sounded like that.

Old 10-26-2017, 02:34 PM
  #194  
Archimedes
Race Director
 
Archimedes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 13,163
Received 3,858 Likes on 1,902 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Petevb
I have a lot more trouble understanding the buyer of a 111k+ manual Carrera T w/ buckets and RWS (availability of the alternatives excepted). I'd go for a lightly optioned...GT3T any day of the week.
You, me and most everyone else. If only you/we could get one...
Old 10-26-2017, 02:39 PM
  #195  
Loess
Three Wheelin'
 
Loess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,290
Received 169 Likes on 89 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by StudGarden
Just curious but what’s the massive appeal of RWS in a supposedly back to basics purist(ish) car?
I think as the modern 911's have gotten longer and longer they have become more stable but have lost some of that nimbleness of a smaller car. The RWS gives an effective shorter wheel base which makes the car really wrap around the corners. I wouldn't blame someone for wanting it to be simpler without it. One could argue similar things with locking diffs. Unfortunately we don't live in the world of 2000lb short wheel base cars anymore. No one could afford the legal defense costs.


Quick Reply: 911 Carrera T



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 09:28 AM.