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Old 10-26-2017, 02:18 AM
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Are the standard brakes up for light track duty (10-20 events per year)?
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Old 10-26-2017, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Hit Apex View Post
Are the standard brakes up for light track duty (10-20 events per year)?
Light duty for sure, though harder pads and more resistant brake fluid recommended. 10/20 events per year does not sound like 'light' track duty though..
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Old 10-26-2017, 04:48 AM
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Now make a 991 with a 718 Cayman s engine and name it the 912 and make it cheeper
Watch this 992 shaped space......
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Old 10-26-2017, 05:02 AM
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We seem to be a little less precious about 911T in the UK. I’ve taken 3 orders over the last 24 hrs from guys that are coming out of boring stuff like M4’s etc and want to jump into something a bit more special that they can just drive and enjoy...But also leave at the station or the shops and not worry about it.
With the cease of production of Carrera and Carrera S models early next year, the ‘T’ makes perfect sense as an entry level swan song for 991.2, and gives back an element of what most purists have been squealing about for the last few years...
Of course there are those people that you will never satisfy, but ask yourself this...which would you rather drive...This or an M4, etc, etc...

Incidentally, My build is going to be a White manual, PCCB, buckets, PCM delete and rear steer...perfect!

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Old 10-26-2017, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by evilfij View Post
Seems to me the poor man’s GT3 touring which was the poor man’s 911R.
Wasn't the GT3 Touring the Smart man's 911R?

sorry couldn't resist..
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Old 10-26-2017, 06:47 AM
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Wasn't the GT3 Touring the Smart man's 911R?

sorry couldn't resist..
Not if you're smart enough to get the R at MRSP
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Old 10-26-2017, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Oldskool View Post
We seem to be a little less precious about 911T in the UK. I’ve taken 3 orders over the last 24 hrs from guys that are coming out of boring stuff like M4’s etc and want to jump into something a bit more special that they can just drive and enjoy...But also leave at the station or the shops and not worry about it.
With the cease of production of Carrera and Carrera S models early next year, the ‘T’ makes perfect sense as an entry level swan song for 991.2, and gives back an element of what most purists have been squealing about for the last few years...
Of course there are those people that you will never satisfy, but ask yourself this...which would you rather drive...This or an M4, etc, etc...

Incidentally, My build is going to be a White manual, PCCB, buckets, PCM delete and rear steer...perfect!
Not sure about U.K. , but in US not sure how you can compare an M4 to the T? Fully loaded m4 in the US is $75k, I played with the configuration with the 911 t and spec a few options (plus the requisite buckets) and you are $115k+. I dig the T but feel they missed the mark on price/value, car with buckets should have priced @ $100k mark. What do I know though, sure they'll sell a bunch of them and sounds like you're already getting orders
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Old 10-26-2017, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Oldskool
We seem to be a little less precious about 911T in the UK. IÂ’ve taken 3 orders over the last 24 hrs from guys that are coming out of boring stuff like M4Â’s etc and want to jump into something a bit more special that they can just drive and enjoy...But also leave at the station or the shops and not worry about it.
With the cease of production of Carrera and Carrera S models early next year, the ‘T’ makes perfect sense as an entry level swan song for 991.2, and gives back an element of what most purists have been squealing about for the last few years...
Of course there are those people that you will never satisfy, but ask yourself this...which would you rather drive...This or an M4, etc, etc...

Incidentally, My build is going to be a White manual, PCCB, buckets, PCM delete and rear steer...perfect!
The perfect spec well done sir. Although that launch yellow looks good. Even with the white, are you going to get the yellow T interior to match your brakes?
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Old 10-26-2017, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JZ98-993 View Post
Not sure about U.K. , but in US not sure how you can compare an M4 to the T? Fully loaded m4 in the US is $75k, I played with the configuration with the 911 t and spec a few options (plus the requisite buckets) and you are $115k+. I dig the T but feel they missed the mark on price/value, car with buckets should have priced @ $100k mark.
Yes totally, price points are far apart.
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Old 10-26-2017, 12:24 PM
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Just curious but what’s the massive appeal of RWS in a supposedly back to basics purist(ish) car?
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Old 10-26-2017, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mika911 View Post
Light duty for sure, though harder pads and more resistant brake fluid recommended. 10/20 events per year does not sound like 'light' track duty though..
These standard steel brakes are not the same standard kit that's on GT cars or the GTS? Just curious if this car will require PCCBs for 20 events a year, not that I'd prefer the PCCBs due to running costs.
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ98-993 View Post
I played with the configuration with the 911 t and spec a few options (plus the requisite buckets) and you are $115k+.
I don't see the wisdom of adding RWS or buckets to this car (in the US, anyway, where folding buckets are unavailable). You're carrying the weight of the rear seats without the ability to use them. Worse you're now in direct competition with the Spyder and GT4 below, cars that are roughly 25% cheaper.

The biggest remaining advantage Carrera T has vs its mid-engined siblings is that it drives like a 911, and the RWS is dialing that out.

I can see the buyer of a base Carrera T pretty clearly- someone who'd like to get a GT4 or Sypder but needs rear seats, PDK and/ or loves the rear engine experience. I can similarly see why many in that camp couldn't get a GT3T.

I have a lot more trouble understanding the buyer of a 111k+ manual Carrera T w/ buckets and RWS (availability of the alternatives excepted). I'd go for a lightly optioned Sypder/ GT4 or GT3T any day of the week.
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Petevb View Post
I don't see the wisdom of adding RWS or buckets to this car (in the US, anyway, where folding buckets are unavailable). You're carrying the weight of the rear seats without the ability to use them.
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I thought the rear seats were deleted if you specc'd LWBs, no?

Longer driving video here. Looks cool, but man that sound is bloody awful. I just couldn't drive around in a car that sounded like that.

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Old 10-26-2017, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Petevb View Post
I have a lot more trouble understanding the buyer of a 111k+ manual Carrera T w/ buckets and RWS (availability of the alternatives excepted). I'd go for a lightly optioned...GT3T any day of the week.
You, me and most everyone else. If only you/we could get one...
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by StudGarden View Post
Just curious but what’s the massive appeal of RWS in a supposedly back to basics purist(ish) car?
I think as the modern 911's have gotten longer and longer they have become more stable but have lost some of that nimbleness of a smaller car. The RWS gives an effective shorter wheel base which makes the car really wrap around the corners. I wouldn't blame someone for wanting it to be simpler without it. One could argue similar things with locking diffs. Unfortunately we don't live in the world of 2000lb short wheel base cars anymore. No one could afford the legal defense costs.
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