Like I was saying, it's a vicious cycle. Producing more will cause other problems that come up later, or start an erosion of their brand. I don't see why it's in their best interest to take that risk. We're not going anywhere so long as the stock market continues to buoy disposable income.

 

Honestly I don't think I've ever considered depreciation when purchasing a sports car. Not something that is important to me with a toy purchase. I'm sure there are plenty that take that in to consideration though.

 

Exactly! I think we need some more GT production, but not too much. It's a very delicate balance. I don't care how rich some of y'all are, it's nice having a car with strong resale. It's part of the allure of Porsche GT cars. AMG, M, Lexus F (if they ever had a pedigree, prob not) have been severely diluted. It's one of the reasons I'm getting a new GT3. If I had to take a 40% hit in 4 years like I would a Vette, I'd probably just buy a discounted Grand Sport or ZL1 and just beat the **** out of it like I've been doing to my ZR1 for the last six years. Bought it new for $100k (120k sticker) and it's worth around $50k with 25k miles. $50k depreciation in six years isn't bad and it's been a blast.

P-GT cars have a special feel that make it worth more, but I'd hate to eat $85k or more depreciation on a $170k GT3 with the same duty cycle as the ZR1 with probably more maintenance costs.

 

...or if increasing production is not possible (for whatever reason), go back to making the GT cars more track focused, which will push the 'less committed' into similarly priced...and likely more profitable...GTS and Turbo models. Win/win.

 

Oooor... just a thought... make changes to the GTS models to make them more attractive to the people that are getting GT3s for non-track use because they're not crazy about certain attributes of the current GTS model.

 

No.
http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...porsche/911--r

 

that just pissed me off so much.

 

This is what happens. 11 911R's for sale with a total 1,367 miles and 2 of them that say zero miles. It make them a piece of art instead of a car. So much for building a car to be driven.

 

If it's any consolation, these cars won't bring anywhere near their asking prices. 991.2 GT3s w/MT will erase $100k. The Touring model will scrub off another $100k. In a year, I'd be surprised it they bring much more than $300k.

In a year's time, these 911R owners will have lost $200k. Ouch.

 

I think things are fine just the way are.

Just enough supply, and just about the right level of demand.

 

My thoughts as well.

We are talking 11 of how many brought into North America? I'm willing to bet that we are seeing less than 10% of what landed available for sale that everyone's getting their shorts in a knot for...

 

Yeah, Porsche need to make GTS more of a GT3 touring than just a enhanced Carrera S.

 

Agreed 100%

But that having been said, we just don't know what kind of SCALABILITY Porsche has when it comes to GT production.
And given the way Porsche is, they won't be upping production by 2x or 3x right off the bat. I'd say that they would take conservative "baby steps" at first,
perhaps increasing GT production by only 25% to test the waters.

 

They produced 100,000 Macan in under 2 years.

I think that's telling.

 

I would like to Porsche to make just enough GT3s for the market to maintain MSRP sales. I'm someone who, with a lot of planning and saving could just barely afford a GT3. I can't just walk into a dealership and pay over MSRP, or buy enough Porsches to get 'in' with them either. I'm a senior enlisted soldier on a more or less fixed income (although I do make a bit more when I'm getting shot at - combat pay and tax exclusion). I'm not a hedge fund manager or corporate exec.

I do however want to own a GT3 to drive and enjoy and keep, maybe forever if circumstances permit. I'd like to drive it on back roads and maybe track it, sometimes (consumables are expensive for someone like me). I would even take it to cars & coffee sometimes (gasp!), go to Porsche events, be part of the culture. I have a Rolex that I bought in '97 that I plan to give to my first daughter one day when I'm a lot older. I'd like to have a GT3 in the garage that when I die gets passed on to one of my daughters who will know that it was something I strove for, attained, valued, maintained, used, enjoyed and passed on. It will have sentimental value attached to it's actual $ value.

The market that's been created by demand outstripping supply has priced me out. It seems like it might be shifting to the point that I could pick up a second hand GT3 recently, but I'm not holding my breath. It's not like these things are made out of unobtanium (it's just steel, aluminum, magnesium, CF, plastic, etc). Porsche could make more if they wanted to.

I agree with a lot of what others on here have said:

1. lack of supply has created this situation, full stop
2. Porsche could/should build more, but not too many (or it becomes like the Corvette - a good car, but there are too many of them)
3. Porsche is losing out on some profit by not producing more cars - that profit is then taken by dealerships and flippers (I don't blame either party here for maximizing their positions)
4. Porsche should build just enough for demand +1

I also think Porsche is/should be the anti-Ferrari (full disclosure - I love Ferraris too). That is, a premium brand but obtainable by a larger portion of the population (with the exception of the hypercars,RSs, exclusives, number plate cars), but with all of the performance and a unique character. They can bring the GT3 back into the obtainable realm by us mere mortals by just producing more of them. I'm sure with the business experience the company has, they can figure out that number.

Please Porsche, just make more GT3s so those of us dreamers that save their pennies (or $100 bills in this case) can get one too. We'll make you proud by driving them and maybe embarrassing a 458 or 488 on a track or back road one day.