just got back, let's discuss value of porsches
02-22-2020, 10:00 AM
#5821
Race Car
02-22-2020, 10:42 AM
#5823
Burning Brakes
^^ the mooty effect has already started affecting / infecting you!
by the time you get out here your photos will be completely upside down!!!
hope to see you guys pedaling around while i'm out for a drive.
by the time you get out here your photos will be completely upside down!!!
hope to see you guys pedaling around while i'm out for a drive.
02-22-2020, 02:16 PM
#5825
I've have an F10 Rim, an F12 Disc and had an F10 Disc while my rim F10 was out of commission (pre-F12).
Generally, I've loved the rim F10 and think the F12 improves in a few key areas:
- For sure stiffer. Visibly more carbon across the entire bike, especially at the bottom bracket and rear triangle. The bike is definitely not a "light" bike, but once it's going, it really gives the impression of power transfer vs the F10. As long as your legs can keep cranking, the F12 definitely feels like a faster bike, even uphill, compared to my rim F10 which is ~2lbs lighter. It's sluggish at really low speed, but i attribute this to the switch from rim to disc.
- Descending the F12 feels much more stable and inspiring vs the F10, and not just under braking due to the disc. I seem to have really become comfortable descending on this bike compared to the F10.
- Better integration of components and cables certainly isn't going to be a game-changer for me or most amateurs, but the bike does look very slick. To me, it's very similar in concept to a new S-Works Venge. Not full aero, not full climbing, but a happy medium.
I recently sold the Disc F10. It was bought as a temporary bike and honestly i never really enjoyed it (and wish we had the rim F10 during Ingamba). It really felt like a rim bike adapted to disc to capture consumer demand, vs a disc bike engineered from day one (like the F12).
The rim F10 i think is honestly killer. It doesn't get much love at the moment, but at around ~15lbs, i didn't want to part ways with it. It's a pretty expensive bike to perpetually have on the trainer, but i do love it. It's a "pretty" bike in my opinion vs the F12.
Halfway through the Tour de Mooty i'll be shipping the F12 to Solvang for a 6-day camp that starts on the 9th. I'll ride the rim F10 for the second half of our week, so really looking forward to the back to back comparison.
I'm also running AXS on the F12 which i think is my favorite part of the F12. Due to the smaller chainrings I end up climbing in the big ring longer and feel more efficient as a result. Really enjoy AXS.
Generally, I've loved the rim F10 and think the F12 improves in a few key areas:
- For sure stiffer. Visibly more carbon across the entire bike, especially at the bottom bracket and rear triangle. The bike is definitely not a "light" bike, but once it's going, it really gives the impression of power transfer vs the F10. As long as your legs can keep cranking, the F12 definitely feels like a faster bike, even uphill, compared to my rim F10 which is ~2lbs lighter. It's sluggish at really low speed, but i attribute this to the switch from rim to disc.
- Descending the F12 feels much more stable and inspiring vs the F10, and not just under braking due to the disc. I seem to have really become comfortable descending on this bike compared to the F10.
- Better integration of components and cables certainly isn't going to be a game-changer for me or most amateurs, but the bike does look very slick. To me, it's very similar in concept to a new S-Works Venge. Not full aero, not full climbing, but a happy medium.
I recently sold the Disc F10. It was bought as a temporary bike and honestly i never really enjoyed it (and wish we had the rim F10 during Ingamba). It really felt like a rim bike adapted to disc to capture consumer demand, vs a disc bike engineered from day one (like the F12).
The rim F10 i think is honestly killer. It doesn't get much love at the moment, but at around ~15lbs, i didn't want to part ways with it. It's a pretty expensive bike to perpetually have on the trainer, but i do love it. It's a "pretty" bike in my opinion vs the F12.
Halfway through the Tour de Mooty i'll be shipping the F12 to Solvang for a 6-day camp that starts on the 9th. I'll ride the rim F10 for the second half of our week, so really looking forward to the back to back comparison.
I'm also running AXS on the F12 which i think is my favorite part of the F12. Due to the smaller chainrings I end up climbing in the big ring longer and feel more efficient as a result. Really enjoy AXS.
02-22-2020, 03:57 PM
#5826
I've have an F10 Rim, an F12 Disc and had an F10 Disc while my rim F10 was out of commission (pre-F12).
Generally, I've loved the rim F10 and think the F12 improves in a few key areas:
- For sure stiffer. Visibly more carbon across the entire bike, especially at the bottom bracket and rear triangle. The bike is definitely not a "light" bike, but once it's going, it really gives the impression of power transfer vs the F10. As long as your legs can keep cranking, the F12 definitely feels like a faster bike, even uphill, compared to my rim F10 which is ~2lbs lighter. It's sluggish at really low speed, but i attribute this to the switch from rim to disc.
- Descending the F12 feels much more stable and inspiring vs the F10, and not just under braking due to the disc. I seem to have really become comfortable descending on this bike compared to the F10.
- Better integration of components and cables certainly isn't going to be a game-changer for me or most amateurs, but the bike does look very slick. To me, it's very similar in concept to a new S-Works Venge. Not full aero, not full climbing, but a happy medium.
I recently sold the Disc F10. It was bought as a temporary bike and honestly i never really enjoyed it (and wish we had the rim F10 during Ingamba). It really felt like a rim bike adapted to disc to capture consumer demand, vs a disc bike engineered from day one (like the F12).
The rim F10 i think is honestly killer. It doesn't get much love at the moment, but at around ~15lbs, i didn't want to part ways with it. It's a pretty expensive bike to perpetually have on the trainer, but i do love it. It's a "pretty" bike in my opinion vs the F12.
Halfway through the Tour de Mooty i'll be shipping the F12 to Solvang for a 6-day camp that starts on the 9th. I'll ride the rim F10 for the second half of our week, so really looking forward to the back to back comparison.
I'm also running AXS on the F12 which i think is my favorite part of the F12. Due to the smaller chainrings I end up climbing in the big ring longer and feel more efficient as a result. Really enjoy AXS.
Generally, I've loved the rim F10 and think the F12 improves in a few key areas:
- For sure stiffer. Visibly more carbon across the entire bike, especially at the bottom bracket and rear triangle. The bike is definitely not a "light" bike, but once it's going, it really gives the impression of power transfer vs the F10. As long as your legs can keep cranking, the F12 definitely feels like a faster bike, even uphill, compared to my rim F10 which is ~2lbs lighter. It's sluggish at really low speed, but i attribute this to the switch from rim to disc.
- Descending the F12 feels much more stable and inspiring vs the F10, and not just under braking due to the disc. I seem to have really become comfortable descending on this bike compared to the F10.
- Better integration of components and cables certainly isn't going to be a game-changer for me or most amateurs, but the bike does look very slick. To me, it's very similar in concept to a new S-Works Venge. Not full aero, not full climbing, but a happy medium.
I recently sold the Disc F10. It was bought as a temporary bike and honestly i never really enjoyed it (and wish we had the rim F10 during Ingamba). It really felt like a rim bike adapted to disc to capture consumer demand, vs a disc bike engineered from day one (like the F12).
The rim F10 i think is honestly killer. It doesn't get much love at the moment, but at around ~15lbs, i didn't want to part ways with it. It's a pretty expensive bike to perpetually have on the trainer, but i do love it. It's a "pretty" bike in my opinion vs the F12.
Halfway through the Tour de Mooty i'll be shipping the F12 to Solvang for a 6-day camp that starts on the 9th. I'll ride the rim F10 for the second half of our week, so really looking forward to the back to back comparison.
I'm also running AXS on the F12 which i think is my favorite part of the F12. Due to the smaller chainrings I end up climbing in the big ring longer and feel more efficient as a result. Really enjoy AXS.
02-22-2020, 09:23 PM
#5827
Went up Page Mill today. Tough, and about 10min slower than Mooty/ChrisF according to the Strava but wasn’t completely cooked on top. Then nearly froze to death going across Skyline. Note to self: bring more clothes for the tour! Back to Vancouver for a week then into a car for the 1000 mile drive back down the coast. 👍
02-23-2020, 03:03 AM
#5828
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Went up Page Mill today. Tough, and about 10min slower than Mooty/ChrisF according to the Strava but wasn’t completely cooked on top. Then nearly froze to death going across Skyline. Note to self: bring more clothes for the tour! Back to Vancouver for a week then into a car for the 1000 mile drive back down the coast. 👍
but if we all feel good we can do this drop to ocean
back up tunitas
good views
bn climbs are 10 mile of recovering rollers
to do 47min i have to be on full bore really tough
48 min as lkng as not too tired and I don’t sleep riding to music I can do it. (yes sometimes I sort of fall sleep while riding. but only once I fell
over)
49-50 min usually is ok
it’s likely the toughest climb around here except joaquim, whixh is 15-17% but only ⅛ miles
no we do not do joaquim
02-23-2020, 03:05 AM
#5829
Burning Brakes
Went up Page Mill today. Tough, and about 10min slower than Mooty/ChrisF according to the Strava but wasn’t completely cooked on top. Then nearly froze to death going across Skyline. Note to self: bring more clothes for the tour! Back to Vancouver for a week then into a car for the 1000 mile drive back down the coast. 👍
02-23-2020, 03:07 AM
#5830
Burning Brakes
02-23-2020, 03:59 AM
#5832
burrito and margarita at SJC erased the suffering, though. 😋
02-23-2020, 04:21 AM
#5833
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^ that's unusual. the coldest parts I have found is descending from skyline to tunitas.
I just slow down to avoid wind chill. I can't feel fingers so hard to pull brake haha
I just slow down to avoid wind chill. I can't feel fingers so hard to pull brake haha
02-23-2020, 04:46 AM
#5834
Burning Brakes
02-23-2020, 11:33 AM
#5835
Three Wheelin'
