ExMB

Thank you for your confirmation.

hf1

Who was there first? If the plant has operated there for a long time without complaints while surrounded by empty fields, then it has practically grandfathered a "noise easement". Buying a (cheap) house next to a loud plant then complaining about the noise is a tad dishonest and hypocritical. Didn't you see/hear the plant before you bought/built the house there? Did you think you simply "lucked out" to find a house priced 30% below the market for no reason whatsoever?

If the plant was built in your backyard AFTER you got there, then that would be a completely different story.

Not a lawyer here but this would be my stance if I was a common law judge deciding on a tort complaint by the neighbors against the plant. Not that this argument would carry any weight in socialist, interventionist Europe.

Z356

First of all, there is NO hill that separates
& visually blocks the residential homes at
Usedomstrasse from Werk II. Perhaps you
need to study this photo closely!



Regardless of what you or others might opined,
the important matter here is that PAG itself does
recognize that Werk II resides next to a residential
neighborhood approved for construction by the
Zuffenhausen governmental authorities back in
the late 1950's & Porsche needs to live in harmony
with its inhabitants! For that reason, Porsche has
agreed to the two 8 hour shift limit in the 24 hour
period during a regular working day!

Keep in mind that PAG has acquired acres of
industrial-use, non-residential 'virgin' land near
Leipzig where they could have placed the new
Mission E plant. And this would have made the
most sense from an economics, noise-pollution,
traffic congestion & enviromental concerns point
of view! Yet Porsche's Board, under the influence
of strong labor unions members that wanted the
new jobs kept in Zuffenhausen & not invested in
far away Saxony (to the detriment of union workers
in that region), decided to build it right inside the
limited grounds of Werk II.

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The origins of Werk I



At the end of June of 1938, Ferdinand Porsche moved his
engineering design firm, “Dr. Ing. h. c. F. Porsche GmbH,
Konstruktionen und Beratung für Motoren- und Fahrzeugbau”
from center-city Stuttgart to a new purpose-built building in
the suburb of Zuffenhausen, just 7 kilometres away. Then
the address was Spitalwaldstraße 2. It also housed the
offices of a nascent Volkswagenwerk GmbH!



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Here is how it looks today:




To be continued...

Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale

OCturbo

Just another data point. A friend of mine got an allocation earlier this month. I helped him build it. Delivery Nov 2018. West Coast dealership

ExMB

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usctrojanGT3

MSRP allocation?

Freddie Two Bs

They should offer them a settlement. The top GTx car in every model year for free, if they keep their mouth shut and let P operate a third shift. I'd take that deal in a nanosecond.

Dalema

Would love a lead / PM - SoCal or NorCal. I’m on the outside looking in.

sampelligrino

So it looks like allocations have been released for Fall 2018? I thought allocations up till now were for Summer 2018 but maybe I am wrong. If anyone knows when the next round of allocations are or will be released, please chime in so I know when to ping my SA and see if I moved on their "list" at all. Might need to raise my "panic" meter hehe...

SToronto

I’ve heard it referenced as builds until July 2018 are out from dealers. Which would put delivery what 2 months after if you have a July build?

jlee504

Builds were released through November 2018. I had a choice between May and November 2018.

I still think they will release more.

SToronto

Good to know. So we haven’t had post July 2018 in Canada yet. So at least those are still to come! Also hoping for a sprinkling of additional allocations for the time period already released.

dark knight

Eduardo, perhaps I have my directions screwed up, so if you go through the plant to the visitors gate with out door parking, that I believe is Porschestrasse, walk to the intersection and turn left, then walk uphill to where there used to be where cars are picked up by transporter, keep walking up the hill, then on your right is an employee parking deck, then past that is the train tracks. Over the tracks is the area we are speaking of? Are we talking about the same area? The old Werks I photo is awesome, any Kronestrasse pics?

dieselino

At my dealer I am next in line, (second allocation for 2018). The person before my is scheduled for April and my car is scheduled for November. Hoping it gets moved up sooner.

Floorit

Just to throw my experience with an allocation into the mix. I have been "given" an allocation for a GT3 September 2018 build which would be a delivery in about Novemberish 2018 and since it is after the summer, therefore my GT3 will be a MY (model year) 2019. I went to the dealer last week with checkbook in hand and build plan. The dealer and I tried to "hit the build" button in his Porsche system and it would not allow the build to happen. My dealer seemed surprised he could not do this. After a little research, it was determined that for my dealer and I, the system is not yet ready to accept MY 2019 builds for build dates after summer 2018. Therefore I have a V070 order on the build rather than the desired V200. As I have learned from all of you at Rennlist and confirmed by the dealer, the V070 is simply a request and doesn't really mean too much and as my dealer put it, the value of a V070 is "pie in the sky". I do not know if my dealer knows he has a Sept 2018 allocation or is assuming he has this allocation. I did not ask. Apparently I cannot lock in my build (V200) until sometime at the beginning of 2018 so other than a gentleman's agreement and a down payment, I have no confirmed build locked in. I'm not worried about it. My dealer has been straight with me.