OT: Lightweight Huracan with sub 7min Ring time (beats 918)
03-02-2017, 10:21 PM
#106
Drifting
^Oh wow.. the game is afoot..
03-02-2017, 10:26 PM
#108
Rennlist Member
My 8+ minute lap at the ring (BTG) sped up to 7 minutes would make Mr. Purple look very, very planted and GT2RS like. Maybe I save myself the $$ and just play the video faster and faster instead of learning to drive and buy faster cars!!
03-03-2017, 02:07 AM
#109
Rennlist Member
from Ringfreaks:
Yesterday Lamborghini shared onboard video on Youtube of Huracán Performante production car record lap time at the Nürburgring. A whopping 6:52.01 min time! 5 sec faster than previous record set by Porsche 918 Spyder. We watched this video, then watched again and then again and again… Something seemed fishy about it.
Why?
In the high speed sections like Schwedenkreuz, Fuchsröhre, Kesselchen Lamborghini doesn’t look record fast. Hmm, maybe this car has crazy active aero which makes it not so fast at very high speeds, but way faster in corners (like a Dodge Viper ACR)? Then we looked at the low, medium, high speed corners speeds. Hmm… doesn’t look crazy fast either.
Ok, we need some reference points here. We found a very useful Porsche 918 lap record video with speed overlay from Racelogic VBOX data logging system - http://goo.gl/Xirjz3
And then started to compare both Lamborghini and Porsche onboard videos very closely. Corner after corner, looking at apex entry / mid / exit speeds, end of straights speeds, etc. And we where very much surprised of what we found.
Porsche 918 is 20+ km/h (!) faster in the end of long straights like Quiddelbacher-Hohe, Schwedenkreuz, Metzgesfeld, Kesselchen. Porsche is also faster in almost every mid speed corner both entry and exit speeds. And both cars doing almost identical speeds at the low speed corners. Below you can find screen shots from videos comparing both cars at maximum or minimum speeds at the same track sections. There is one straight where Lambo goes ~10 km/h faster - Döttinger Höhe section when 918 goes out of hybrid system battery power.
Yeah, we know, comparing car speed figures from onboard videos it is not a very scientific way. But if Porsche 918 speed is coming from ultra accurate Racelogic 20hz GPS tracker and Lamborghini just shows onboard computer speed which is usually few percents higher than the real one - then this is even worse? On the other hand - speeds in slow corners of both cars where so similar that this makes us think both of them probably uses quite accurate GPS data overlay.
Well, now we have our own opinion about this record lap time. Stay tuned - there are more coming from Misha Charoudin / Boosted Boris, he is working now on full scale analysis video about it.
Thoughts?
or as Peter already posted:
from Dale BridgeToGantry:
"If the GPS speeds are correct, then that can only leave one logical conclusion: Lamborghini sped up the frame-rate of the video. Roughly, using those numbers above, I’d guess by nearly 5%. In other words, they might have taken a 24fps edit, and played it at 25fps. So a 6m52s lap would really be a 7m08s lap."
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...19827778163625
Yesterday Lamborghini shared onboard video on Youtube of Huracán Performante production car record lap time at the Nürburgring. A whopping 6:52.01 min time! 5 sec faster than previous record set by Porsche 918 Spyder. We watched this video, then watched again and then again and again… Something seemed fishy about it.
Why?
In the high speed sections like Schwedenkreuz, Fuchsröhre, Kesselchen Lamborghini doesn’t look record fast. Hmm, maybe this car has crazy active aero which makes it not so fast at very high speeds, but way faster in corners (like a Dodge Viper ACR)? Then we looked at the low, medium, high speed corners speeds. Hmm… doesn’t look crazy fast either.
Ok, we need some reference points here. We found a very useful Porsche 918 lap record video with speed overlay from Racelogic VBOX data logging system - http://goo.gl/Xirjz3
And then started to compare both Lamborghini and Porsche onboard videos very closely. Corner after corner, looking at apex entry / mid / exit speeds, end of straights speeds, etc. And we where very much surprised of what we found.
Porsche 918 is 20+ km/h (!) faster in the end of long straights like Quiddelbacher-Hohe, Schwedenkreuz, Metzgesfeld, Kesselchen. Porsche is also faster in almost every mid speed corner both entry and exit speeds. And both cars doing almost identical speeds at the low speed corners. Below you can find screen shots from videos comparing both cars at maximum or minimum speeds at the same track sections. There is one straight where Lambo goes ~10 km/h faster - Döttinger Höhe section when 918 goes out of hybrid system battery power.
Yeah, we know, comparing car speed figures from onboard videos it is not a very scientific way. But if Porsche 918 speed is coming from ultra accurate Racelogic 20hz GPS tracker and Lamborghini just shows onboard computer speed which is usually few percents higher than the real one - then this is even worse? On the other hand - speeds in slow corners of both cars where so similar that this makes us think both of them probably uses quite accurate GPS data overlay.
Well, now we have our own opinion about this record lap time. Stay tuned - there are more coming from Misha Charoudin / Boosted Boris, he is working now on full scale analysis video about it.
Thoughts?
or as Peter already posted:
from Dale BridgeToGantry:
"If the GPS speeds are correct, then that can only leave one logical conclusion: Lamborghini sped up the frame-rate of the video. Roughly, using those numbers above, I’d guess by nearly 5%. In other words, they might have taken a 24fps edit, and played it at 25fps. So a 6m52s lap would really be a 7m08s lap."
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...19827778163625
03-03-2017, 03:32 AM
#113
Race Director
Originally Posted by jo_ker
if Porsche guys would know that it was faked - they would not be allowed to tell - based on the same mother.
03-03-2017, 08:21 AM
#119
Drifting
