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Old 01-10-2019 | 02:08 PM
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got to drive the SO's 570 Spider some more the other day to get some touch up done on the PPF install.
had a few areas on the roof where the film had popped up a bit, so the Myko guys sorted that out.

the feel of the car is much different from my 997.2 GT3, but have to say i really like how the car drives.
suspension does a great job of feeling both firm and supple. even in sport mode it is "better behaved" than the GT3.
far more quiet inside when tooling around (even with the MSO Ti exhaust), so the Bowers & Wilkins stereo is a nice option.
though when you're on boost, man, the car really takes off and does create a pretty nice sound on its own.

in my limited driving time, have only found a few things i don't fully like about the car.
it attracts more attention than i'm used to / like, though i guess a bright orange McLaren is going to do that.
the car upshifts way earlier than i'd like it to when in auto mode. makes the perceived lag feel worse.
track mode helps, but find myself mostly going manual and keeping the revs up a bit to solve both the early upshift and "lag".
and the chassis makes some strange creaks and noises that i've been told are normal, but that i still don't like.

personally, i prefer the less refined, louder, more immediate feel of the GT3, but look forward to getting more time in the 570.
Old 01-10-2019 | 04:38 PM
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got email from mac about new car intro on jan 16th. looks like will be 750lt. that is going to be an epic car. cant see who would want hideous senna when new lt will be almost as fast, cost less than 1/2, and be gorgeous to boot?
Old 01-10-2019 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 95spiderman
got email from mac about new car intro on jan 16th. looks like will be 750lt. that is going to be an epic car. cant see who would want hideous senna when new lt will be almost as fast, cost less than 1/2, and be gorgeous to boot?
600LT spider. 750 or whatever it will be called still a couple years away.
Old 01-10-2019 | 04:56 PM
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Video in their new email appears to show a 600LT variant?
Old 01-10-2019 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 95spiderman
got email from mac about new car intro on jan 16th. looks like will be 750lt. that is going to be an epic car. cant see who would want hideous senna when new lt will be almost as fast, cost less than 1/2, and be gorgeous to boot?
LT version of 720S will have epic performance. But if Senna is "Hideous", I can't see LT being "Gorgeous"

I agree next new Mac will be 600LT Spider...
Old 01-10-2019 | 05:07 PM
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oh 600lt spider makes more sense.
btw, I think 720 is a beauty and senna is horrible so unless they totally screw up the 750lt it should be a real winner style wise
Old 01-10-2019 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 95spiderman
oh 600lt spider makes more sense.
btw, I think 720 is a beauty and senna is horrible so unless they totally screw up the 750lt it should be a real winner style wise
We shall see. I’m on the list for one whenever it comes out. Nice to be able to ask for an allocation and get one without playing the Porsche game.
Old 01-10-2019 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 95spiderman
oh 600lt spider makes more sense.
btw, I think 720 is a beauty and senna is horrible so unless they totally screw up the 750lt it should be a real winner style wise
Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye


We shall see. I’m on the list for one whenever it comes out. Nice to be able to ask for an allocation and get one without playing the Porsche game.
I would wait for the Senna LT.
Old 01-10-2019 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
for a true data point, regardless of what the other posters chime in with:

my store sold 44 McLarens in 9 months last year. of the 570's, we only discounted a few of them (based on age) and have sold a lot of our demo cars with 1000-2000 miles for both 650S and 570s to different groups of people...what I notice:


* "Mistreated Customer" is the TOP linearity between all buyers that we take from Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, etc. A lot of them have given up on those local stores and end up with us.

* " something more custom, more exotic and 'not a lambo'" is another comment we get a lot from people

* I'd say 50% of our McLaren buyers are either GT3 owners or stepping up from GT3 /RS cars into a McLaren.

* focused on performance, and not status- we don't get drug dealer club promoter types nor do we get the flashy "business leasers" that I see at BMW, Mercedes and some of those brands. Generally our customers are relatively established, 45-55 yr old guys that LOVE driving and putting miles on their cars.
Scottsdale store is fabulous friendly.........
Old 01-10-2019 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by robmypro
Yeah, the penalty is a lot less than say with Ferrari. Not sure the percentage of stiffness loss, but I think it was something like 30% on a Spider. That has to show up.
There is zero stiffness loss- the carbon tub on a mclaren has zero structural rigidity difference and zero stiffness added as the roof is an appliqué
Old 01-10-2019 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
the ride height drops 50mm on senna when in race mode.

the ride height on P1 drops 30mm when in race mode.
i thought senna drops 36 mm on the front and 26 mm on the rear in race mode. Agree on the P1.

I'm one of those show offs that always drive in Race
Old 01-10-2019 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by robmypro
I would find it hard to drive the car on the street without lowering the car. Not that i can afford one. But those wheel gaps are just too much imo.




Surely that is a picture with the FAL activated?
Old 01-10-2019 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thebishman

Surely that is a picture with the FAL activated?
We can only hope.
Old 01-10-2019 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban
There is zero stiffness loss- the carbon tub on a mclaren has zero structural rigidity difference and zero stiffness added as the roof is an appliqué
Right CJ.*It was*Ferrari that had 30% loss.
Old 01-10-2019 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by thebishman
Surely that is a picture with the FAL activated?
Yes that is lift up


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