991.2 GT3 Paris 1-16 October official presentation
09-21-2016 | 06:15 AM
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Apparently there were another three seconds in it. But judging by various other laps from reputed drivers (e.g. the Manthey lap) low 7:2x is a fair time. I think as we all learn more about the car these times will drop and 7:10 will become feasible. Will take some huge ***** though.
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09-21-2016 | 10:15 AM
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Grant, a new tyre would be great. However I'm led to believe the 991.2 GT3 will be shipped on the MPSC2 in the same sizes as the current GT3...
As for the 991.2 GT3 I have capitulated and put my name on an allocation but will only consider the car if it comes with the valve train from the DFI racing engine.
As for the 991.2 GT3 I have capitulated and put my name on an allocation but will only consider the car if it comes with the valve train from the DFI racing engine.
As far as motor, I heard the development from the 4.0L GT3R race car. Is this what you're referring to? I didn't even realize this has a new valve train, but sounds interesting. What sort of improvements does it represent?
Welcome aboard the 991.2 GT3 wait list
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09-21-2016 | 11:32 AM
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I believe that the Ring times are being specifically "dosed" by Porsche. They have no interest to issue the best these cars can do as it would be hard to improve them in the following generations.
Same goes with power. You really think that Porsche can't release Turbo S with 800HP on Cup tires and call it a day right here, right now?
They have a long term programme when it comes to power and performance figures. They know what they are going to sell in one or two generations ahead.
On the other hand manufacturers like Alfa need to do the best they can. It is one time show for their new Gulia and either they succeed and progress from this point or their cat will be forgotten. Not the case with Porsche.
Same goes with power. You really think that Porsche can't release Turbo S with 800HP on Cup tires and call it a day right here, right now?
They have a long term programme when it comes to power and performance figures. They know what they are going to sell in one or two generations ahead.
On the other hand manufacturers like Alfa need to do the best they can. It is one time show for their new Gulia and either they succeed and progress from this point or their cat will be forgotten. Not the case with Porsche.
As far as the Gulia is concerned. I have viewed the footage of the lap in question and its pretty easy to summarize that the vehicle is clearly not running stock boost. The way the cars front end lifts on acceleration seems to indicate that its putting down over 500 hp.
09-21-2016 | 12:59 PM
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Porsche still can't get right the engines on these cars after 3 years, and now they're talking even more power? It's going to take a while for me to trust them again. But hope they spent more time developing the 'new' (if that's the case) engine this time around. They don't seem to have an issue with lower revving turbo engines, so I suspect at least talks of giving up high HP, NA engines, just like everybody else. We'll see
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09-21-2016 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbo1111
...As far as the Gulia is concerned. I have viewed the footage of the lap in question and its pretty easy to summarize that the vehicle is clearly not running stock boost. The way the cars front end lifts on acceleration seems to indicate that its putting down over 500 hp.
Here are two fun facts: The Giulia already has a published hp rating of 505hp by the way, and I can make a 50 hp fiat panda raise its front end under acceleration.
I'm curious though how you can "pretty easily" tell that this particular Giulia is not running stock boost by how it's lifting its nose?
09-21-2016 | 01:41 PM
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09-21-2016 | 02:20 PM
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09-21-2016 | 05:16 PM
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And that's how rumors gets started on Internet forums. Pretty soon we'll have a thread on an Alfa forum where someone read on a Porsche forum that Alfa is adding extra boost to their prototypes cars.
Here are two fun facts: The Giulia already has a published hp rating of 505hp by the way, and I can make a 50 hp fiat panda raise its front end under acceleration.
I'm curious though how you can "pretty easily" tell that this particular Giulia is not running stock boost by how it's lifting its nose?
Here are two fun facts: The Giulia already has a published hp rating of 505hp by the way, and I can make a 50 hp fiat panda raise its front end under acceleration.
I'm curious though how you can "pretty easily" tell that this particular Giulia is not running stock boost by how it's lifting its nose?
09-21-2016 | 05:48 PM
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Alternatively, it might have 35 psi peak boost at low revs and reduces sharply at higher revs - this would make for a fat torque curve without an astronomically high HP rating (still seems less likely than my guess above though).
09-21-2016 | 06:06 PM
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09-21-2016 | 07:27 PM
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09-22-2016 | 12:00 AM
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From: The way to hell is paved by good intentions “Wenn ich Purist höre...entsichere ich meinen Browning” "Myths are fuel for marketing (and nowadays for flippers too,,,)" time to time is not sufficient to be a saint, you must be also an Hero
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have unconfirmed with facts but dreams
and this is a fact regardless the very near Paris autoshow
time is running fast dreamers...
post a black and white information if you really have one before 1st October