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Old 07-16-2016, 06:04 PM
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Chris3696 from this post reported the 991.2 GT3 will have a 4.0 engine and a MT option with deliveries in June 2017.

I tend to believe him as he's been right before here, and elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by bronson7
The 991 R owners won't have to worry b/c the .2 GT3 will be the 3.8 with the MT as an option.
No no no no no... that 3.8 is going into the history books as a black mark in Porsche's history. The 4.0 is confirmed. (Yes this is a fun game at this point.. ). How much $ is on told-you-so points?
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Originally Posted by goin2drt
Note all these non turbo guys. 99% will be in if it goes turbo. Porsche always makes the next gen better than the last. Therefore they will figure out how to make an amazing car even better. Everyone will want the next best, newest toy. Given the opportunity not one will turn it down.
So true.

We need to start writing names of all those in this thread who say "no" to the next GT3 if it's FI.

If they show up with a 991.2 GT3 we take them out to the woodshed, and have them grill up all those crows we've been saving for them. .
Old 07-16-2016, 09:43 PM
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Have a 991 GT3 RS and have ordered (hope to get it) the GT2/3 RS already. Dont care if its NA or TT but MUST be competitive with Ferrari (488 SP) and McLaren 675LT or wont go ahead.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
So true.

We need to start writing names of all those in this thread who say "no" to the next GT3 if it's FI.

If they show up with a 991.2 GT3 we take them out to the woodshed, and have them grill up all those crows we've been saving for them. .
No thanks, I'll have enough NA GT cars to rotate through to pass on FI GT cars. I'm hoping that the .2GT4 is also NA.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Chris3696 from this post reported the 991.2 GT3 will have a 4.0 engine and a MT option with deliveries in June 2017.

I tend to believe him as he's been right before here, and elsewhere.
My thinking is that any inside source who is willing to provide such sensitive and specific inside info more than a year in advance is either faking it or has no interest in keeping his job. Regardless, things do change so we'll see how it all plays out.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
My thinking is that any inside source who is willing to provide such sensitive and specific inside info more than a year in advance is either faking it or has no interest in keeping his job. Regardless, things do change so we'll see how it all plays out.
I don't doubt your source Mike, but it'd be hard to imagine squeezing anymore out of the existing 3.8 without creating more "engine" issues down the road.

Plus, Porsche has already developed the 4.0, might as well optimize their RoR.

And really, I think having a MT option on the next iteration of GT cars does more to neuter the R than the use of the 4.0 will.
Old 07-17-2016, 02:23 AM
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It's very hard to believe Porsche would pass up on the opportunity to sell us a gt3rs and a gt2rs so I fully expect one more NA 3rs.

Maybe the factory is taking names of all those saying they won't buy a turbo car.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I don't doubt your source Mike, but it'd be hard to imagine squeezing anymore out of the existing 3.8 without creating more "engine" issues down the road.

Plus, Porsche has already developed the 4.0, might as well optimize their RoR.

And really, I think having a MT option on the next iteration of GT cars does more to neuter the R than the use of the 4.0 will.
It's not about my source, Ipse, it's about the source for Chris back in April. I just question such specific info being doled out so far in advance by someone responsible who is truly in the know. We'll get the straight scoop eventually...
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Nope...Will not buy. Part of the experience is the audible pleasure of the car, turbos just don't sound good.
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Let's go back prior to the unveiling of the 991 GT3. What was the rumour mill then vs what actually came to be? There's always going to be someone right and others wrong.
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In addition to Mike's comments, there's a marketing issue --yeah, we know Porsche LOVES this part. Porsche now has all its 911s packaged with Turbos and at least anecdotally, sales aren't exactly rocketing higher.

Porsche wants to move PAST N/A motors for a host of reasons, and the road to acceptance of 911 w/Turbos isn't helped my launching another round of N/A GT3s! Porsche needs the pinnacle of its 911 lineup to move new 911s off the dealer's floorplan and into your garage. The purists may cringe, but they'll get over it, just as they did with Porsche's transition off air-cooled 911s.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Rob, I tried to talk him into it this time but he had some silly excuse about work, his new book, a big family trip, etc. Next year for sure Nick! Returning now to the usual speculation....
If my book sales keep on pace, I'm there! Of course by then we'll already know, so we won't need to water board Hurley with Vodka.
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Originally Posted by bronson7
Let's go back prior to the unveiling of the 991 GT3. What was the rumour mill then vs what actually came to be? There's always going to be someone right and others wrong.
So long ago! What I remember mostly, bronson, are all the complaints about RWS, PDK-S, EM steering, CL's, etc. from people who have now purchased a new 3 or RS with....RWS, PDK-S, EM steering, and CL's. That's why I suspect for all of the complaining about future turbos, and I include myself because I've had a preference for NA engines, it will all fall away when Porsche delivers another terrific GT car, whatever the configuration.

I'm not making any predictions and none of the "sources" I've ever mentioned in the past have been willing to give precise info or dates, and that's what I would expect and is as it should be. The conversation with Hurley that I referred to a few posts back was around philosophy and trends, not the features or introduction dates of future models. But it did raise some interesting and valid questions that I think are relevant to what we're discussing here.

Originally Posted by WernerE
Porsche wants to move PAST N/A motors for a host of reasons, and the road to acceptance of 911 w/Turbos isn't helped my launching another round of N/A GT3s! Porsche needs the pinnacle of its 911 lineup to move new 911s off the dealer's floorplan and into your garage. The purists may cringe, but they'll get over it, just as they did with Porsche's transition off air-cooled 911s.
No matter which way Porsche goes, this is still an interesting point, Werner.


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