How to get one?
01-15-2016, 03:46 PM
#16
^ this man speaks the truth. obviously you can DD the car if you want.. even the most hardcore cars of today are light years better for DD use than the death traps of the 80s and 90s. but having a DD makes ur weekend car feel so much better.. like an event.
01-15-2016, 03:51 PM
#17
Interesting feedback. Thanks.
> What car was that for?
> Was this a long time ago?
There is a lot of hype now around limited editions from any brand, making longer lists of clients...
Not so long ago, when the Challenge Straddle and 996 GT3 RS came out, no one really cared. You could them fairly easily, there were not limited: the number of potential buyers were making them limited runs.
> What car was that for?
> Was this a long time ago?
There is a lot of hype now around limited editions from any brand, making longer lists of clients...
Not so long ago, when the Challenge Straddle and 996 GT3 RS came out, no one really cared. You could them fairly easily, there were not limited: the number of potential buyers were making them limited runs.
01-15-2016, 04:03 PM
#18
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Dear All,
I have been a member of the Porsche family for about 13 months, daily driving a 991 C2S which I upgraded to a 991.1 Turbo 4 months ago.
I do love those cars, I use them almost "as a beater" except that I take great care of them. 25,000mi/smile a year has no price.
I have recently contacted the 2 P. Dealers I maintain relationship with to try to get positioned for the next 991.2 GT3 RS, and possible the "4.0" one.
All of them had the same answer: "if we are to get one, it is already sold."
> My question is:
"has the factory anything to say about this?"
Ferrari for example, allocates limited editions, based on their review of the client, and also dealer feedback.
> I'm sure Porsche, as a factory/company, would value more to see a fairly young new client to the brand, with a passion about cars, daily a GT3 RS for about 20kmi+ plus a year, and collect it, with a potential to "grow with the brand", rather than seeing those models allocated by dealers to clients who will not drive the car of flip it quickly to make some profit.
Let me know what you guys think, how you got to get one slot, how you became your "favorite dealer client".....
Thanks
I have been a member of the Porsche family for about 13 months, daily driving a 991 C2S which I upgraded to a 991.1 Turbo 4 months ago.
I do love those cars, I use them almost "as a beater" except that I take great care of them. 25,000mi/smile a year has no price.
I have recently contacted the 2 P. Dealers I maintain relationship with to try to get positioned for the next 991.2 GT3 RS, and possible the "4.0" one.
All of them had the same answer: "if we are to get one, it is already sold."
> My question is:
"has the factory anything to say about this?"
Ferrari for example, allocates limited editions, based on their review of the client, and also dealer feedback.
> I'm sure Porsche, as a factory/company, would value more to see a fairly young new client to the brand, with a passion about cars, daily a GT3 RS for about 20kmi+ plus a year, and collect it, with a potential to "grow with the brand", rather than seeing those models allocated by dealers to clients who will not drive the car of flip it quickly to make some profit.
Let me know what you guys think, how you got to get one slot, how you became your "favorite dealer client".....
Thanks
Alternative Strategy:
1.Send Porsche to the hell
2.Buy anythingelse for 2 years
3. Try again with Porsche and eventually repeat step 2
P.S.
This iteration is the last Non Turbo Non Electric GT for Porsche
next GT will much easily available
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01-15-2016, 04:32 PM
#19
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I still don't get why people would daily drive a GT3/RS. How young are you
01-15-2016, 04:47 PM
#21
If you have multiple P dealers in your city, pick one (that you like) and stick to just one. Dealers work hard to build a customers loyalty so repay the favor and be loyal to them. If they like you and your don't act like a complete D-Bag and your a humble 32 year old they will respect you. Also, since you have along way to go to show your loyalty to them, I suggest you volunteer $$ for them to hold as a deposit. A lot of guys will disagree with this bc you wont make any interest on it, but it shows your a serious buyer.... Better than the market right now
That's how you should go about it, but using a RS as a DD is just dumb. Have you ever been in a RS, or scud? Don't buy a car bc it's the "cool" or you want to impress someone. I'm telling you now you will hate DD a RS! If you are in the position to spend 200K+ on a car you should be able to spend 230K. If you do get a chance to buy a RS do it, and go take the other 30K and buy a car you can DD. Trust me, I've been down this road
That's how you should go about it, but using a RS as a DD is just dumb. Have you ever been in a RS, or scud? Don't buy a car bc it's the "cool" or you want to impress someone. I'm telling you now you will hate DD a RS! If you are in the position to spend 200K+ on a car you should be able to spend 230K. If you do get a chance to buy a RS do it, and go take the other 30K and buy a car you can DD. Trust me, I've been down this road
> An RS cannot be my sole driver just for the sake of snow / heavy rain days.
My Turbo does that job well but I'd probably not keep it. I'd get a sedan of any sort probably
> I would daily drive this car and probably put a good 15k mi on it.
I have daily driven a 360CS in the past.
Not a hype guy. not sure if daily driving a 911 is hype actually.
It's small, poorly insulated, gps/infotainement is far from great.
I do it for the sake of the sheer pleasure driving a compact/well balanced car which makes you feel alive instead of asleep during my commutes.
01-15-2016, 04:53 PM
#22
01-15-2016, 04:55 PM
#23
Still, I can live with the RS as I think the pleasure of driving a hard core car outweights the lack of comfort. I'll just wait till I arrive to make phone calls, which anyway is not the best even in a standard 911.
01-15-2016, 04:57 PM
#24
Due to the tire type, I out of my usual 25kmi, I would probably be down 15kmi and use another car for the rest of it (or fly/train more often).
01-15-2016, 05:00 PM
#25
I say go for it then!
There are 20-25 RS for sale on ebay and auto trader right now, most are 80-120K over sticker, if you cant wait. If you can wait and you want to spec you own, go to your local dealer with your checkbook, write them a healthy check and tell them to put you on the list for the next RS. If they tell you that "sorry the list is already too long and they hold those cars for their VIP's" then you write a bigger check or find a new dealer
There are 20-25 RS for sale on ebay and auto trader right now, most are 80-120K over sticker, if you cant wait. If you can wait and you want to spec you own, go to your local dealer with your checkbook, write them a healthy check and tell them to put you on the list for the next RS. If they tell you that "sorry the list is already too long and they hold those cars for their VIP's" then you write a bigger check or find a new dealer
01-15-2016, 05:02 PM
#26
The speculation kills it for a lot of true car guys.
01-15-2016, 05:06 PM
#27
Dear All,
I have been a member of the Porsche family for about 13 months, daily driving a 991 C2S which I upgraded to a 991.1 Turbo 4 months ago.
I do love those cars, I use them almost "as a beater" except that I take great care of them. 25,000mi/smile a year has no price.
I have recently contacted the 2 P. Dealers I maintain relationship with to try to get positioned for the next 991.2 GT3 RS, and possible the "4.0" one.
All of them had the same answer: "if we are to get one, it is already sold."
> My question is:
"has the factory anything to say about this?"
Ferrari for example, allocates limited editions, based on their review of the client, and also dealer feedback.
> I'm sure Porsche, as a factory/company, would value more to see a fairly young new client to the brand, with a passion about cars, daily a GT3 RS for about 20kmi+ plus a year, and collect it, with a potential to "grow with the brand", rather than seeing those models allocated by dealers to clients who will not drive the car of flip it quickly to make some profit.
Let me know what you guys think, how you got to get one slot, how you became your "favorite dealer client".....
Thanks
I have been a member of the Porsche family for about 13 months, daily driving a 991 C2S which I upgraded to a 991.1 Turbo 4 months ago.
I do love those cars, I use them almost "as a beater" except that I take great care of them. 25,000mi/smile a year has no price.
I have recently contacted the 2 P. Dealers I maintain relationship with to try to get positioned for the next 991.2 GT3 RS, and possible the "4.0" one.
All of them had the same answer: "if we are to get one, it is already sold."
> My question is:
"has the factory anything to say about this?"
Ferrari for example, allocates limited editions, based on their review of the client, and also dealer feedback.
> I'm sure Porsche, as a factory/company, would value more to see a fairly young new client to the brand, with a passion about cars, daily a GT3 RS for about 20kmi+ plus a year, and collect it, with a potential to "grow with the brand", rather than seeing those models allocated by dealers to clients who will not drive the car of flip it quickly to make some profit.
Let me know what you guys think, how you got to get one slot, how you became your "favorite dealer client".....
Thanks
01-15-2016, 05:15 PM
#28
I say go for it then!
There are 20-25 RS for sale on ebay and auto trader right now, most are 80-120K over sticker, if you cant wait. If you can wait and you want to spec you own, go to your local dealer with your checkbook, write them a healthy check and tell them to put you on the list for the next RS. If they tell you that "sorry the list is already too long and they hold those cars for their VIP's" then you write a bigger check or find a new dealer
There are 20-25 RS for sale on ebay and auto trader right now, most are 80-120K over sticker, if you cant wait. If you can wait and you want to spec you own, go to your local dealer with your checkbook, write them a healthy check and tell them to put you on the list for the next RS. If they tell you that "sorry the list is already too long and they hold those cars for their VIP's" then you write a bigger check or find a new dealer
Then....1) I consider ordering a 200k RS is a great deal, and the pleasure of ordering mine, with possibly PTS, many details...makes it mine, my keeper. and 2), except for the market value which make it "worth" 150k (currently), I don't think an RS is a 350k car. At least not to me.
For 350k, I can get a lot of a car, track oriented, from other brands.
01-15-2016, 05:16 PM
#29
Do you track it? It's just not that fun on the street for me. Maybe if it had a manual...
01-15-2016, 05:22 PM
#30
Isn't that nice. Seems you are the fairly young new client to the brand so you should be sold an RS. It doesn't work like that. Either pay the premium ( I'm personally against that ) or start making personal connections with dealerships to get on their list. Maybe you get lucky maybe you don't. Lastly learn to live WO an RS if all else fails, it's just a car.
It's "I am passionate about cars and plan on building a car collection, order it and KEEP it, I will put more miles on this car that 95% of RS owners (which has a value to Porsche as a company, to have their products used, on the road), and yes, I am younger than the average demographics of the Porsche 911 clientele, which DOES have a value to Porsche as a company, as it is good to encourage clients with higher potential than the average (see potential as "buy higher end models, more often, participate to car events and promote the brand) to stay in the brand. Porsche is not the only brand out there when you like cars a lot.
I can very well live without an RS.
it's also likely I'll learn to live without a P car in the end if Porsche cannot follow me up while I up my car game in the coming years.