991 GT3

Agree. Seems business models evolve. Porsche allows dealers to **** off great top tier customers because they aren't part of that dealers fraternal inner circle on closely held commodities. Smart business would figure a way to circumvent a sales Mgr or GM's shortcomings. I'm not an *** kisser, not in my DNA, but want to do business with them at their highest level, not sure why this doesn't resonate with the execs at Porsche. System is broken like our gov't.

baronm69

I did not track my C2S nor plan on tracking the Turbo but would definitely track the RS (or GT3 if I had one) from time to time.

fxz

I see you ve alwady choosen to wait for the next iteration

i agree on this strategy

differently you would push further the bubble price

Congrats

24Chromium

I think you're kidding yourself, in thinking that the brand (the company) is at all interested in you personally. I know many folks with a long history of owning 911s, especially the GT cars, who are unable to get one at MSRP (in the case of the GT3 RS, not even for, say $25k over). See my sig as an example.

Way too many folks with train car loads of cash to spend, not to mention the 918 VIPs.

But hey, best of luck to you.

baronm69

If I was a Porsche exec., I am not sure how much I would care as they have created a great momentum that **** off clients like me, but make many other clients very happy.
1 lost for 1 happy. The car is sold. They hype and premiums are there.
> Winner for Porsche.

BUT...

Porsches (at least 911s) are not just vehicles. They sell "dreams".
If their other models can command a good premium, its not only about quality.
It's also because their live off a different "hype", a hype from the past when they had 911s only and were making car kids like me dream of their "exclusive car" as in the past, it was just exclusive to have a Porsche.
Now to have an exclusive Porsche, you need a Gt3, RS, GT4 and the likes.

So yes, somehow, exec. at Porsche should keep a slice of their production for guys like us.

Now...this being said...how does Porsche identifies such clients?
Through dealers (!), Porsche Cup events....I have no time (and no money enough) to be a Porsche Cup client.

Issue is I have no interest to licking the *** of a Porsche dealer which looked down on me when I came in to buy my first 911 or other would sold me a Turbo and made me feel like I bought a pair of sneakers.
(So you guys know, the experience of buying a car in Europe is MUCH better than any dealer in the US).
I have no interest in buying 1 car a year just for the sake of bing a VIP client, as there will always be a VIPer client (starting with the dealership owner).

It's a game. Not good in your are not already in.

gt2urbo

lol gl OP .. im 31 and have been buying porsches for 7 years...turbo, gt2 , gt3 rs 991 gt3, cups. What else would you get at 350k? a speciale? not much else besides a full cages real race car is am track oriented than the RS(street car). VIPER is it and what im moving to while Porsche figures out whats good for them. 675 if you wanna spend 400k plus. GL it is gonna be needed

baronm69

I'm not kidding myself. I know they don't give a sh.. of my business: their cars are all sold.
They should just be interested in me, as unlike other buyers, I may have a little more interest in the brand than collecting or just owning the last thing.

Porsche Brands are what they are because you have PCA members, fans who put posters in their bedrooms.
Whether or not those who do that (and most don't) have sufficient money to buy a car like an RS, a 918..., the Brand has the aura it has because of them.

And for Porsche to keep the interest of a client like me, who has the funds to by an RS, hopefully one day a 918, will attend the PCA events, do charity, share my passion for the brand, and keep the car on the road, Porsche needs to show me a little attention.

If I can't purchase a car that gives me more sensations that a standard 911 (turbo or not) because the sell process is perturbed, then I have no other choice than moving to another brand.

15 years ago, we would not even be having this conversation:
1) standard cars we still analog enough to possibly not make me want to move to a gt3 rs version
2) GT3 versions were not hyped. They were just drivers drivers cars for people with a passion for the brand and the product. Not limited.

24Chromium

How about a Cup car? Or a 918? The Porsche Sport Driving School provides these cars in some classes here in Finland at the ice driving school...

baronm69

I am not exactly sure to understand your comments and Lol.

Instead of "flashing" your car and your age, educate the board here on how you got, being aged 24 only, and every year after, into those GT2, GT3 and RS?
You seem like being on the VIP list? How did you make the list?

Bying a car over MSRP is not the point of discussion here.
If you inherit a relationship built before you with your dealer by your family, well this is not the point of the conversation to.

The point of this thread is how new clients, with no relationship to the brand but with a growing passion about it can get to see their passion (and willing ness to buy a product) fed by a company selling products.

And to answer your question, I'd probably never get a Viper in my garage, not buy a 650s new (but possibly 675LT yes).
At this time, yes, for 350k i'd get a Speciale.
I'd even get a F12 over an RS even though it's totally different, as I don't believe an RS (again, besides market value) is a 350k car.

baronm69

Awesome pics!!

I actually made contacts with Porsche NA to see how the tracking event on snow can be booked....my only challenge is finding the time for those.
But it's right there in my mind, with great great desire to get there.

Why not a cup? Would love to. I may get there when I have time.


918? Love this car.
Don't have the funds for it yet and anyway, it's too late to order one.

My desire to get and keep an RS is my first step in getting into the P Brand special cars.
918 replacement could be the next one for me.

Now, explain me if I can't even get an RS now, how do I get a 918 when time comes?

tqevo

If you put down a 500k deposit on the next 918 I'm sure they'll take your order.

Ronan

The 996 RS was very limited and did not ship to North America.

I would echo those who made the point that the dealer relationship is key. It is about getting your cars serviced there, having a respectful relationship showing enthusiasm for the car and not flipping it , because they then lose the stream of income from the service work. The manufacturer does not intervene in the decision unless it is a program like the 918 preferential access.

Also, be knowledgeable and order your car very early. Most of those who got their cars are MSRP had deposits down a long time before the car was even announced officially.

baronm69

Not a patsy, sorry....

baronm69

I was in Europe at 996 times, did not know about the fact it was not imported to US.
Like the 360CS, the production was very limited but it was due to low client demand.

I totally agree with you regarding placing a deposit early: that is what I am trying to do!

Alan C.

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Yes and will continue to do so.