997rs4.0

I'm not sure what you mean?

If 991RS is limited it will be the first regular RS in history. They have always made sure to produce demand -1. All the way back to 1973.

Limited cars are 1/500 gt2rs or 1/600 4.0 and so on. That have a plaque.

If you ask me I think the same will happen to the 991rs. It might be hard to swallow today but I'm confident that you will be able to get 911rs @msrp before production ends. Exactly the same that happened to 991gt3.

kfmcmahon

how is this clown not banned?

and why does he think it takes any level of skill to drive a manual tranny well...I just taught my 16 yo to drive a 6 speed? empty parking lot/3 hours-done!

and why is his avatar of a dual clutch car?

lumber

Jimmy-D

I think some people have still forgotten the 991 GT3 "stop sale" that ceased production for almost 4 months. I really believe that this impacted the amount of RSs that will be produced. With moving all the 991s and 981s to Turbo ect., I think it would not be that easy to extend the run another 4-6 months. I do not believe they underestimated demand. They saw that demand build up with the GT3.

I think they underestimated the GT4 demand if any. Are they making the GT4 at the same location as the GT3/RS?

Manifold

IMO, a main thing this thread illustrates is that best choice of car really depends on how you'll use it. We are NOT all looking at this from the same perspective.

For serious track use by skilled drivers, with road use mostly limited to driving to/from the track, the merits of the ACR seem undeniable. Putting down lap times close to a 997 cup on slicks is very impressive.

For primarily road use with some track, the GT4 is a great choice. You don't have to drive it foolishly fast to enjoy it on the road, yet it's solidly capable on track.

The 991 GT3 is an awesome car. I LOVE the PDK, and would still choose PDK if manual was offered. The ACR will whoop its butt on track, but it's still very fast and very fun to drive on track. It's also comfortable enough on the road, and sometimes fun on the road too if you have a chance to open it up a bit. The engine and the overall integration of the car are

I haven't driven an RS, but it seems to be close to the GT3 on both road and track, except generally dialed up a bit. If someone likes the GT3 and is comfortable spending the extra $$ for the RS, I guess get the RS. I still wish the RS was more track-focused like the ACR, and therefore had a substantially different character than the GT3, but Porsche seems determined to make even its GT cars livable as daily drivers.

997rs4.0

Great summary. I totally agree!

fastmd

^^^^ Concur +1

C.J. Ichiban

Yup

Arth

well said Manifold

jwalton

That's the point exactly ^^^^^^ Jon in Delaware . Except instead of the GT 4 by a Lotus IMHO

Keith Verges - Dallas

Unlike the purple thing in your avatar.

khooni

where's the BAC/ Radical crew?

Keith Verges - Dallas

I have an SR8 and it's a quantum leap faster. For example, at my home track I am nine seconds a lap faster than Tommy Kendall's "record." (MSR). But it is not a street car in any sense of the word, and I had to sign a special letter allowing confiscation of my car should I ever drive it on the street. It is substantially lighter, has a better power to weight ratio, more aero, and slick tires. It also lacks a warranty, and is unquestionably higher maintenance. As a small example, I have to use an external battery to start it.

That said, nothing even comes close to my Raddy if you want to go around with a passenger. I scoff at cup cars. I suspect some of the more advanced sports racers like the Wolf and Ligier might be quicker, but the Raddy is cheaper. All in with a fresh engine and fuel-cell in my car, I was able to buy used for a little under $100,000.

Very few track rats are quite as wacky and willing to step up to a vehicle like this. It has been a real challenge to learn to drive through the aero, as you have to have faith at the speed you can roll at turn in. I suspect the Viper will be between something like a cup car with relatively modest downforce, and the Raddy

Waxer

To me a GT3RS is not a daily driver for multiple reasons. Sufficiently comfortable yes... but seriously, every day???? It sticks out like a sore thumb, its wing and vents are ostentatious and visibly aggressive not to mention the ones in PTS colors, its wheels are big $$$ that most won't want to expose to every day pot holes, its magnesium panels won't want to be exposed to stones thrown from those mini vans and it's $200K + price tag would make many think twice leaving it with a valet, on a street spot or in a parking garage.

The standard GT3 is barely an every day car.

To me maybe these cars are once in a while take to the office cars and certainly weekend cars.

This is my view anyway.

They are really dedicated to track performance.

Based on the value of these cars not many of us I believe would really drive these cars at 10 10ths or even 9 10ths on the track. Moreover, while I am sure some here have to skill to not many others do. I don't.

The Viper ACR for the price cannot be beat for raw track performance. If RS's cannot be had at MSRP for me it will be between a GT3 and the ACR Xtreme. Would lean towards the Porsche though based on resale and the simple fact that its a "Porsche". I would drive an ACR first though. They are bad *** looking for sure. The Darth Vader of track cars.

wanna911

Somehow I find that kind of funny when your avatar is a purple car with a big ole wing and vents in the fenders. These are very much cut from the same cloth in the design department.


I dont mind either. I just dont see how you could love one and at least not respect the other. Very unbalanced unless your avatar is to mock the RS as well?