BMW M4GTS faster around the Ring as the 991GT3? (or even faster than RS?)
#31
Drifting
[QUOTE=batmanm3;12868624]e46 m3 S54 with manual...sweet spot for looks, fun, power, handling, weight, reliability...
I ordered this spec in 2003 Cab , oxford green w/ cinnamon leather
just a wonderful car dressed it with bold M color pinstripes .
I ordered this spec in 2003 Cab , oxford green w/ cinnamon leather
just a wonderful car dressed it with bold M color pinstripes .
#32
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Agreed, the GTS might be fast but I think the last FUN M car was the Z4M Coupe... though I'm biased...
Last edited by ajw45; 12-24-2015 at 12:45 AM.
#33
That's a keeper. E46 in a lighter, shorter wheelbase car. Does not get much sweeter.
#34
They no longer cover four years of maintenance.
I have two M cars - older ones - and got a current GT3 instead of an M4, although the GTS was possible. I don't regret it in the least though I expect it is a superb performance car. The 'Ring speed is a marketing tool and little else. It ignores the character and ethos and to some extent even the engineering of a car in favour of a single best effort numerical comparison which is only genuinely objective if conditions and driving skills are the same across all comparators, and if the results are thoroughly repeatable. Even then, it says little about a car's enjoyability on the street. The Nordschleife isn't very much like most streets...or tracks for that matter.
I have two M cars - older ones - and got a current GT3 instead of an M4, although the GTS was possible. I don't regret it in the least though I expect it is a superb performance car. The 'Ring speed is a marketing tool and little else. It ignores the character and ethos and to some extent even the engineering of a car in favour of a single best effort numerical comparison which is only genuinely objective if conditions and driving skills are the same across all comparators, and if the results are thoroughly repeatable. Even then, it says little about a car's enjoyability on the street. The Nordschleife isn't very much like most streets...or tracks for that matter.
#36
Though the 15 yr old time limit is approaching...so I have thought about trying to find a low mileage japanese CSL to import into Canada ...
And then convert it to 6 sp manual
#37
[QUOTE=R.Deacon;12869590]
Still have mine...2005 Imola red with black interior, manual...with only 35,000 km...my DD/track car is the black one with 240,000 km...
Love them both
Love them both
#40
Very interesting. Thank you for that. I recently went to a local dealer as male ballast with a newly divorced female friend who was interested in an X3 and the general manager - no less - was telling her that the 4-year plan was discontinued except as a chargeable option. I didn't question it. I foresee a call to BMWNA.
#41
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Very interesting. Thank you for that. I recently went to a local dealer as male ballast with a newly divorced female friend who was interested in an X3 and the general manager - no less - was telling her that the 4-year plan was discontinued except as a chargeable option. I didn't question it. I foresee a call to BMWNA.
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#42
GT3 player par excellence
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wow lap time
great driver
ITS A BMW
their days are over.
PAG please watch study and learn from neighbors mistakes....
engineering and speed alone ain't gonna make good cars. they win races. and lots cars has better engineering. passion and history are things that one cannot make up or design. u either got it or don't. and PAG is losing it fast
great driver
ITS A BMW
their days are over.
PAG please watch study and learn from neighbors mistakes....
engineering and speed alone ain't gonna make good cars. they win races. and lots cars has better engineering. passion and history are things that one cannot make up or design. u either got it or don't. and PAG is losing it fast
#43
Very interesting. Thank you for that. I recently went to a local dealer as male ballast with a newly divorced female friend who was interested in an X3 and the general manager - no less - was telling her that the 4-year plan was discontinued except as a chargeable option. I didn't question it. I foresee a call to BMWNA.
Last edited by Maverick787; 12-24-2015 at 12:01 PM.
#44
Race Car
wow lap time
great driver
ITS A BMW
their days are over.
PAG please watch study and learn from neighbors mistakes....
engineering and speed alone ain't gonna make good cars. they win races. and lots cars has better engineering. passion and history are things that one cannot make up or design. u either got it or don't. and PAG is losing it fast
great driver
ITS A BMW
their days are over.
PAG please watch study and learn from neighbors mistakes....
engineering and speed alone ain't gonna make good cars. they win races. and lots cars has better engineering. passion and history are things that one cannot make up or design. u either got it or don't. and PAG is losing it fast
#45
Nordschleife Master