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Old 09-04-2015, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante Alighieri
wow...75kg over a 997 4.0 with same configuration
about laptime...really not to care much about, track conditions...probably dirt since races not taking place there...and too hot affecting tyres grip (with air at 29°...track surface can be around 50° centigrade in a summer sunny day), play a big role in this kind of comparisons
btw i remember that test with 991 gt3, it registered astonishing performances acceleration....even better of 991 turbo s tested the same day...
it would be a good measurement if they would tell us the pavement surface temp on these days too. At VIR during the IMSA weekend we would see a lap time change by 2 seconds depending on the part of the day the session was in. The slowest times were when the track temp was around 125 degrees F. Ambient temp was about 85 degrees F. Big difference in grip level.
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Originally Posted by Selvatico
Italian AUTO magazine just tested the Rs at Balocco race track.Heavy car , 1.473.5 kg (with roll cage,Pcm, sport Chrono,lift, standard brakes,sound plus packet, 90 lt fuel tank,no fuel) + high temperature (29°degrees) = slower than regular Gt3 on race track and 0-100 km/h (tested during winter 2013).

Balocco race track time
Gt3 : 2'43"22
Rs : 2'45"78
0-100 km/h
Gt3 : 3.37 s
Rs: 3.61 s
0-1000 mt
Gt3 : 20.64 s
Rs:20.97 s





Ahy Ahy Ahy no good

This is not the dirt track (they re serious enough to clean it before official measurements)
nor just the temp.

But as we know on "not too fast" circuits the GT3 is better for well known reasons
Old 09-05-2015, 08:24 AM
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As other have mentioned quite disappointing. This car will def not be seeing off a normal GT3 which is surprising and sorta melodramatic. Acceleration was also behind the regular GT3. Is this a result of the engine being "turned down"?? I guess only the really higher ups will know that (or some random Bosch engineer that fiddles with the GM of the ECU for the RS).
Old 09-05-2015, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Selvatico
In Franciacorte race track (Italy) Evo Magazine Italian team has just settled the best lap time with the RS, almost 2 second faster than the standard Gt3.











So definetely something odd with the last review don't you think?
Old 09-05-2015, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by fxz
Ahy Ahy
But as we know on "not too fast" circuits the GT3 is better for well known reasons
Don't mean to be rude, but can you state some of the reasons?
Old 09-05-2015, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by karimgt3
Don't mean to be rude, but can you state some of the reasons?
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https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...l#post12365915

in "slow" turns rs has more oversteer
it becomes effective only for avg high speed circuits
24 hp make no difference all the rs goodness is
as stated by Porsche...
the aerowork

personally i hate cars made only with the Ring in mind while most
of buyers use it for coffe n cars... waste of money

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better r n d spent on lighter pdk (-s..) , better mid low torque
etc etc

this rs is the less interesting considering area of possible evolution

and frankly the weight... fattest rs ever

but who cares of buyers ..the race version is sequential
gearbox no fat pdk
and no need of mid low tq there so why i shouldn t buy a race rather than useless (against gt3) street rs version?

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Originally Posted by fxz
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https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...l#post12365915

in "slow" turns rs has more oversteer
it becomes effective only for avg high speed circuits
24 hp make no difference all the rs goodness is
as stated by Porsche...
the aerowork

personally i hate cars made only with the Ring in mind while most
of buyers use it for coffe n cars... waste of money

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better r n d spent on lighter pdk (-s..) , better mid low torque
etc etc

this rs is the less interesting considering area of possible evolution

and frankly the weight... fattest rs ever

but who cares of buyers ..the race version is sequential
gearbox no fat pdk
and no need of mid low tq there so why i shouldn t buy a race rather than useless (against gt3) street rs version?
Thanks for the reply..

Although Randy seemed to be the only one complaining about the oversteer issue, i think the extra torque in the midrange is backed up by the extra tyre grip in the back.. We'll know more about that soon when they test the car again on Motortrend..

I'm not sure what u mean by better mid low torque and how it can be proven to be better.. The purpose of the 4.0L engine is the extra torque..

If u watch chris harris's video on the "technical track", he is amazed by the turn in of the car in rather slow corners..

The RS has proven to be faster than the GT3 in all tracks so far (except in Selvatico's last post weirdly)... I mean what are we expecting? 4-5 seconds gap on a 1-2 minute circuit?? No way! The 991GT3 is already very fast..

Looks like you really hate the 991RS..

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Originally Posted by karimgt3











So definetely something odd with the last review don't you think?
The exception that confirms the rule...an inconsistent result...and there are reasons, so this should not be over interpreted, me thinks!
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not only one exception

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/contidrom_38.html

and i suspect after the first porsche
"sponsored" presentations
more to come
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Originally Posted by fxz
not only one exception

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/contidrom_38.html

and i suspect after the first porsche
"sponsored" presentations
more to come




Check the contidrom post above, there are 2 times for the RS on that track, and yes the RS Is still faster.. so 1 exception for now.
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check the reality 0.6 s is very poor
or in other words the same and the disappointment is the Rs not the Gt3...
Old 09-05-2015, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by karimgt3



Check the contidrom post above, there are 2 times for the RS on that track, and yes the RS Is still faster.. so 1 exception for now.
There are 3.3, 3.6 & 3.8 km long track versions of the Contidrome track. The times listed on Fastest Laps do NOT discriminate on what track length the times were set and just lumps them together!
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Originally Posted by fxz
check the reality 0.6 s is very poor
or in other words the same
Hahaha! Even by a millisecond, it's still faster!

I wish i can improve by 0.6 on my laptimes..
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Originally Posted by Der-Schwabe
The exception that confirms the rule...an inconsistent result...and there are reasons, so this should not be over interpreted, me thinks!
True.. The reason is simply track and ambient air temperatur..
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this why i ordered 1.2 Rs... this one is no worth over my GT3


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