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Old 03-26-2014, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Claudef2
@ savyboy, thanks for posting the Autoweek article and generating the discussion that followed.

Tomorrow it will be 5 weeks since that fateful email telling me not to drive my GT3. Right now a properly functioning Z28 would be a lot more useful than the $150K lump of inert metal that has been sitting in my garage ever since. I had never thought about a Camaro, but the article was a real eye opener.

Next week we are supposed to get the next email or the next phone call and find out when our cars will be repaired. Maybe. If it is not promised for April, I will order a different car (not a Porsche) that will take a while to arrive in California. After that whichever arrives first wins.

I am not a Chevrolet addict, never owned a Vette or a Camaro, but I have been towing my race car with a Suburban for 15 years and I have to say I am completely satisfied. The Z28 and the Z06/Z07 are now on my list, at least to consider.
Informed discussion is a beautiful thing. And I can thoroughly relate to being car-less during tracking season- it SUCKS.

Here's something mind-bending for a light snack:

http://blogs.motortrend.com/1403_the...st_enough.html

"But I'm part of the lucky handful who've driven the newfangled Z/28, and the car might go down as one of the best bargains ever."
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…and more press for the Z28 - "7 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 alternatives for $75K"

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/car-c...=1459_50513494
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I'm in.
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Originally Posted by savyboy
It was an OE car vs an OE car and it doesn't get any more fair than that.

lol. using that logic, you could put ANY two cars in production against each other, and it would be "fair"?

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Canadian Supercar attempt?
All i can say is "Bricklin".
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^me thinks less things will break with camaro due to simplicity and cheap to fix(remember u got an extra 75k to play around with) and how cheap the consumables will be. I know 991 gt3 won't be a cheap fix out of warranty. I'm sold on the looks of the 991 gt3 but that's it. I bought my gt3 simply for the the motor/tranny ie mezger. Hopefully it's used in motorsport racing and with success and longevity ie be a long long while when that happens if at all. Mike
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OMFG, i find this thread awfully boring.
some like z06
some like c6z06
some like cayman
some like bmw.
some ppl even read magazines

go buy a gt3 and a z28, play around with it. sell the one you dont like.
life too short to TALK
it is about DO

sometimes answer is not conclusive. then buy another GT3 and another Z28 repeat and sell the one you dont like. then repeat again and again, while everyone else just TALK TALK TALK.

pete, bring down that monster, i like to flog it around a bit ;-)
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Originally Posted by mooty
go buy a gt3 and a z28, play around with it. sell the one you dont like.
life too short to TALK
it is about DO
Exactly. Z/28 will be a nice stop gap until RS arrives in 2015, 2016, 2020????

BTW, good luck finding Z/28 if you're interested. Almost as hard to come by as GT3.
Old 03-27-2014, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
Canadian Supercar attempt?
All i can say is "Bricklin".
^created by an American millionaire.

Another Canadian. Just wish it had a wind screen


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Normal Camaro's look like **** to me but the Z28 looks very nice to me.
Beautiful even. I like it much better than the Corvette.

I like the skyline like rear end.

I probably fit in it no problem.
Even if it's too heavy, with a solid 3 year warranty is take it if proven that you can beat on it hot weekend after hot weekend!

I rather have the Lighter Corvette if I fit in it but the Z51 with good brakes is not for sale yet.

I look forward to the track reports!
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The time for getting a Z/28 for anywhere near MSRP has passed. Prior to the press embargo lifting, most everybody laughed out loud at a Camaro model that stickered at 3x what a Camaro starts at. savyboy being an obvious exception to this. Thanks to M/T, R&T, etc. dealer mark-ups will be HUGE.
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Originally Posted by mainly
lol. using that logic, you could put ANY two cars in production against each other, and it would be "fair"?
You figured it out It's called "run what you brung". Porsche "brung" a PDK, RWS, and a specific Porsche specified N rated tire. Trofeo is NOT N rated. That is Porsche's spec, deal with it. Go talk to your dealership service department about running non N rated tires.

You don't get to alter the car simply because you don't like the results. It is what it is.

Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Even if it's too heavy, with a solid 3 year warranty is take it if proven that you can beat on it hot weekend after hot weekend!
Reno NV and Sacramento CA are just as problematic in regards to heat as FL. Sacramento gets f'ing HOT in the summer. So does Thunderhill. We all care about running during high ambient temps. In my eyes from a technical point of view I am worried far less about the Z/28 than I would be for a Porsche. It would behoove doubters to do homework and learn about Mark Stielow's background (Google would be your friend).

Worried about cooling? Take a look at this:

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Still don't get why anyone would want this pig over a C7 with the Z51 package (faster, cheaper) let alone a Z07...
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Is this Pilgrim dude a professional article writer, or is he a professional race car driver like Walter Rohl or someone who knows how to race a rear engine'd car like a 911?

I put very little into the validity of these test when the writer from the magazine is doing the testing.
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Originally Posted by Tacet-Conundrum
Is this Pilgrim dude a professional article writer, or is he a professional race car driver like Walter Rohl or someone who knows how to race a rear engine'd car like a 911? I put very little into the validity of these test when the writer from the magazine is doing the testing.
Yes, Andy Pilgrim is a pro driver for GM. I had him drive my RS at Summitt a few years ago with me as a passenger. I'm sure he took it a bit easy on the car as it wasn't his, but he is an amazing driver. I'm not sure of his experience with the 911, but he drove it like a pro.


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