Uncooked Truth: A Sad State of Manual Transmission Affairs
#151
Speaking for myself, if they can get PDK to feel like the air shifters in a prototype-style race car, or like the sequential in my open-wheel car, I'm in. Today's PDK, though, still doesn't have that feel - it's like driving a Playstation shifter, not like a physical connection to the gearbox. It would appear that this is important to a number of potential customers.
Let's also keep in mind that the Porsche enthusiast customer base is a fairly "type-A" group of people. They get uptight about small details - and those details can override total performance, value, and a whole lot of other things that may not appear rational to a German design engineer. That's who they're trying to sell to, though.
Perhaps Porsche has seen the success of the Cayenne and decided that this is the path they need to go down - mass-market automotive jewelry for gated communities. Personally, I hope not; Porsche's marketing staff may not agree with me.
#152
Nordschleife Master
False, I have repeatedly said the car looks fantastic. I like the motor, contrary to one of the more prevalent complaints of the car. I'm a huge fan of the chassis (notably wheelbase increase). In fact I like everything about the new GT3 (went as far as calling it the best car ever minus two maybe three things) except RWS, Certerlocks, 20's and PDK. Do I need to repost them so you can see how far your foot is in your mouth?
Could it be that you are so blinded by your emotions regarding the car you can't see that the reason people are so upset is that they love the car but just refuse to settle for it being dumbed down an sold out for the masses. When all along the car has represented just the opposite (for the most part)?
My point in bringing that up was simply that you are the most intolerant of others point of view. Which you have so reluctantly help me prove.
Thanks.
Brilliant insightful post.
Could it be that you are so blinded by your emotions regarding the car you can't see that the reason people are so upset is that they love the car but just refuse to settle for it being dumbed down an sold out for the masses. When all along the car has represented just the opposite (for the most part)?
My point in bringing that up was simply that you are the most intolerant of others point of view. Which you have so reluctantly help me prove.
Thanks.
Brilliant insightful post.
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#154
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Using advanced technology like PDK-S is dumbing down a high performance car?
#155
Corrolary: Some would say that the iPod and low-bitrate MP3s are a great new advanced technology that allows unprecedented portability and an easy sales transaction model. Others would say that they are a disaster, because their market impact is making it that much harder to find audio media that actually sounds good. Both would be correct from their respective viewpoints.
#156
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1. Manual transmission
2. PDK-S @ 0.3sec faster laptime than #1,
3. PDK-S + GoogleDrive, where you sit IN the car and do nothing @ 0.3sec faster laptime than #2,
4. PDK-S + GoogleDrive, where you sit OUT of the car and watch the action on a screen @ 0.2sec faster laptime than #3
Why?
#157
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Ever see (language/program/process) For Dummies? The idea is to make learning and mastering as easy as possible.
Get the point yet?
#158
I hope you guys know by now that its only coming in PDK-S. i think we are past the point of hoping they might change their minds. With that said, what are your other options. Just curious to know what is another good sports car.
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Yep, dumbed down so that anyone can master it. Just put it in auto. The dumbed down part is what is required of the driver, who would be the dummy in the equation.
Ever see (language/program/process) For Dummies? The idea is to make learning and mastering as easy as possible.
Get the point yet?
Ever see (language/program/process) For Dummies? The idea is to make learning and mastering as easy as possible.
Get the point yet?
Hey, whatever makes you happy.
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BTW, your comment indicating the better drivers prefer MT speaks volumes as to how MT advocates think and believe. I cannot think of anything more debilitating than self delusion.
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#165
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False, I have repeatedly said the car looks fantastic. I like the motor, contrary to one of the more prevalent complaints of the car. I'm a huge fan of the chassis (notably wheelbase increase). In fact I like everything about the new GT3 (went as far as calling it the best car ever minus two maybe three things) except RWS, Certerlocks, 20's and PDK. Do I need to repost them so you can see how far your foot is in your mouth?
Could it be that you are so blinded by your emotions regarding the car you can't see that the reason people are so upset is that they love the car but just refuse to settle for it being dumbed down an sold out for the masses. When all along the car has represented just the opposite (for the most part)?
My point in bringing that up was simply that you are the most intolerant of others point of view. Which you have so reluctantly help me prove.
Could it be that you are so blinded by your emotions regarding the car you can't see that the reason people are so upset is that they love the car but just refuse to settle for it being dumbed down an sold out for the masses. When all along the car has represented just the opposite (for the most part)?
My point in bringing that up was simply that you are the most intolerant of others point of view. Which you have so reluctantly help me prove.
One thing that I honestly didn't get was that you were one of those who "love the car". You said just a few posts back in this thread (post #130) that you "have not started a single thread in this section (as I don't have much good to say)" (italics added). At the time, that seemed completely accurate based on my recollection of your posting history in this forum. Yet now you're saying that you "like everything about the new GT3", going so far as to call it "the best car ever minus two maybe three things". That seems to be wildly inconsistent, although it would be rude to suggest it went as far as putting your foot in your mouth. If I've been wrong about your admiration for the 991 GT3, my bad. Maybe, though, you can understand why there might be confusion regarding your feelings and posts about the car.