New 991 GT3 / Exclusive pics and information. The real deal & at last some good news!
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What are you whining about anyway, you dont have CL's. Have you ever changed them or just watched?
So what happend that you have seen first hand?
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First hand? Well, for example, we recently had a GT2RS stop dead on track due to CL problems (the owner is extremely fastidious about his CL's too). Wheels stayed on...barely...luckily. But car had to be towed in.
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and that's the point here.
even though the failure rate may be low as a total percentage,
when you tracking at such high speeds, you don't need any more variables.
too many variables already.
even though the failure rate may be low as a total percentage,
when you tracking at such high speeds, you don't need any more variables.
too many variables already.
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You guys are whining like little girl who just found out that her favourite lollipop flavour of strawberries and cream has just been replaced with double strawberries and cream...
PDK and paddleshift vs manual. Let me phrase this so that even Americans understand: Would you really like to fight against automatic assault rifles with a magazineless bolt-lock one?? The loading feeling of the latter might be authentic, genuine, original and true to tradition, but you'd find yourself dead pretty soon...
Centerlocks. The majority of GT3's with centerlocks have kept their wheels on. You just have to use proper tools and procedures for the job to be done correctly. Don't blame the mirror if you don't like the picture you see.
Engine. Most likely a magnificent one (again) even though it might have some relation to 9A1. It'll be a continuation to Porsche's proud racing heritage, just wait and see.
20" wheels. It's the future and although 19" would/will fit the chassis is tuned to those.
Exterior. Not much to complaint. As stated from previous posts the final verion will be slightly different ( Read: Even more awesome.) Again just wait the Geneva show...
Exterior. OK, here's something to improve. Although the center console has family connection to Carrera GT it's IMO to much...I hope that the RS has more simple one.
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PDK and paddleshift vs manual. Let me phrase this so that even Americans understand: Would you really like to fight against automatic assault rifles with a magazineless bolt-lock one?? The loading feeling of the latter might be authentic, genuine, original and true to tradition, but you'd find yourself dead pretty soon...
Centerlocks. The majority of GT3's with centerlocks have kept their wheels on. You just have to use proper tools and procedures for the job to be done correctly. Don't blame the mirror if you don't like the picture you see.
Engine. Most likely a magnificent one (again) even though it might have some relation to 9A1. It'll be a continuation to Porsche's proud racing heritage, just wait and see.
20" wheels. It's the future and although 19" would/will fit the chassis is tuned to those.
Exterior. Not much to complaint. As stated from previous posts the final verion will be slightly different ( Read: Even more awesome.) Again just wait the Geneva show...
Exterior. OK, here's something to improve. Although the center console has family connection to Carrera GT it's IMO to much...I hope that the RS has more simple one.
All above just my 2 cents...
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"PDK and paddleshift vs manual. Let me phrase this so that even Americans understand: Would you really like to fight against automatic assault rifles with a magazineless bolt-lock one?? The loading feeling of the latter might be authentic, genuine, original and true to tradition, but you'd find yourself dead pretty soon..."
Let me explain it so you can understand "Who cares what you think". Bad analogy, you wouldn't want me on the side of the "bolt Lock Rifle"
Let me explain it so you can understand "Who cares what you think". Bad analogy, you wouldn't want me on the side of the "bolt Lock Rifle"
You are comparing a hobby to a gun fight? Sorry don't get the correlation. But I'll play.
Though I'll gladly take my chances in a manual 991 vs the quality of drivers the PDK is going to attract.
So yeah, I'll take the bolt-action and some skill and accuracy vs spray and pray knuckleheads with no skill.
You seem to have completely missed the point on the CL. The point is that they are a PITA, and for NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER!!!! They don't do anything but require more effort to change, don't shed any weight, require more maintenance, have shorter life span, and add more risk.
20" wheels are not the future. If they were, we would be seeing them on pro racing cars in pro racing series. How many 20" wheels have you seen in Grand-Am, ALMS, FIA GT, Lemans, etc etc etc?
Though I'll gladly take my chances in a manual 991 vs the quality of drivers the PDK is going to attract.
So yeah, I'll take the bolt-action and some skill and accuracy vs spray and pray knuckleheads with no skill.
You seem to have completely missed the point on the CL. The point is that they are a PITA, and for NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER!!!! They don't do anything but require more effort to change, don't shed any weight, require more maintenance, have shorter life span, and add more risk.
20" wheels are not the future. If they were, we would be seeing them on pro racing cars in pro racing series. How many 20" wheels have you seen in Grand-Am, ALMS, FIA GT, Lemans, etc etc etc?
What a ridiculous analogy. PDK only, 20" dubs, and a still unproven "race" motor are all disappointments.
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I have helped & I have watched, incredulous that a major car company as prestigious as Porsche would dare foist such utter **** onto a $100,000 car. And now--even after the recalls & changing maintenance schedule & demands that CUSTOMERS pay for a 4200 mile replacement schedule (to which I would say PHUQUE YOU), they are putting them in the next generation of cars? LMFAO.
First hand? Well, for example, we recently had a GT2RS stop dead on track due to CL problems (the owner is extremely fastidious about his CL's too). Wheels stayed on...barely...luckily. But car had to be towed in.
First hand? Well, for example, we recently had a GT2RS stop dead on track due to CL problems (the owner is extremely fastidious about his CL's too). Wheels stayed on...barely...luckily. But car had to be towed in.
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Yes that's correct and what i was referring too. My belief is this black car is only partially unveiled (i.e. front and rear bumpers and all hardware - brakes etc). I think for the show they will keep a few surprises (final wheel design, door mirrors, final rear spoiler). I believe too they will need to choose a new "signature color" for this model. It will probably be a new shade of white but would be nice if they added Maritime Blue to the standard color palette again to go with the racing yellow and red they have...
I'm hoping the GT3 gets the Cup style mirror base. With so many details of the car confirmed, I'm still curious about the rear wing... (these wheels look great!)
An adjustable wing makes sense.
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If that's the wing, well then I do not like it.
Way too muted. Not aggressive enough but I'm sure Porsche has done all the R&D in it's development but I still hate it.
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Way too muted. Not aggressive enough but I'm sure Porsche has done all the R&D in it's development but I still hate it.
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Hey, I said I liked them. ![Cool](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
But still child's play compared to Fiat. Wait, maybe that's a bad comp ![EEK!](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
I suspect he meant the new Cup car mirrors.
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Those new cup mirrors look identical to the shots of the white car taken at Estoril that surfaced in October.
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Is this the same 2RS mentioned in another thread where I asked for detail/pics? Might have missed it, but never saw a reply with info. Halfway hearsay info is worse than worthless because it just stirs up a lot of emotion that has no basis in facts and nothing can be learned from it. Not disputing the guys car broke, but why?
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Is this the same 2RS mentioned in another thread where I asked for detail/pics? Might have missed it, but never saw a reply with info. Halfway hearsay info is worse than worthless because it just stirs up a lot of emotion that has no basis in facts and nothing can be learned from it. Not disputing the guys car broke, but why?
Just because you and Peter haven't heard of it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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