New 991 GT3 / Exclusive pics and information. The real deal & at last some good news!
02-18-2013, 06:55 PM
#121
Anything is definitely better than nothing at this point.
02-18-2013, 06:57 PM
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02-18-2013, 06:58 PM
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They are far from trouble free, and frankly, they are a solution to a problem that did not exist. Total mental masturbation project for some engineers. I mean, come on: should it REALLY require several people, a jack, and a gigantic 4' long tool just to properly torque a wheel? 
With full respect for the spy ofcourse!!!
No way 18" will fit..
02-18-2013, 07:10 PM
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Geez, I though we were all about choices. 
Some people prefer using the stick. Anyway, it would require more than having one button on the console for reverse as you would have to re-engineer the function to select automatic mode as well. People are complaining that this car is becoming too Fiat-like and others that it's not Fiat-like enough. Make up your minds! 
Some people prefer using the stick. Anyway, it would require more than having one button on the console for reverse as you would have to re-engineer the function to select automatic mode as well. People are complaining that this car is becoming too Fiat-like and others that it's not Fiat-like enough. Make up your minds!
02-18-2013, 07:16 PM
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02-18-2013, 07:24 PM
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02-18-2013, 07:29 PM
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It is nice that they have a redundant shifter on the center console in addition to the paddles.
My Cayenne can be shifted on the steering wheel or the center console and it is convenient.
The Fiat is a PITA. When I drive to the Cars and Coffee, I typically stop by Starbucks to grab the coffee, so I bring the car and the coffee to the static race. Problem is that Fiat did not add cup holders to save weight so I have to hold Hot Coffee with the right hand, and drive one-handed GT3DE style with the left, so I can only downshift, and I cannot upshift unless I switch hands on the Coffee, it takes a lot of time.
A center console shifting lever allows me to shift gears up and down with coffee on hand.
The American market needs flappy paddles, a center console redundant shifter, at least two cup holders, an iphone holder (my Fiat iphone interface doesn't work with my iPhone5 anymore), sunroof, cushy seats with memory, bluetooth, navigation, front and rear axle lift, exhaust with loud mode and quiet mode, 30 mpg on the highway (thanks VW for the 918 Spyder), all these features should be standard in a $160k car that looks identical to the $80,000 entry level model.
By the way, at $160k, the standard GT3 is getting awfully close to MP4-12C used prices.
My Cayenne can be shifted on the steering wheel or the center console and it is convenient.
The Fiat is a PITA. When I drive to the Cars and Coffee, I typically stop by Starbucks to grab the coffee, so I bring the car and the coffee to the static race. Problem is that Fiat did not add cup holders to save weight so I have to hold Hot Coffee with the right hand, and drive one-handed GT3DE style with the left, so I can only downshift, and I cannot upshift unless I switch hands on the Coffee, it takes a lot of time.
A center console shifting lever allows me to shift gears up and down with coffee on hand.
The American market needs flappy paddles, a center console redundant shifter, at least two cup holders, an iphone holder (my Fiat iphone interface doesn't work with my iPhone5 anymore), sunroof, cushy seats with memory, bluetooth, navigation, front and rear axle lift, exhaust with loud mode and quiet mode, 30 mpg on the highway (thanks VW for the 918 Spyder), all these features should be standard in a $160k car that looks identical to the $80,000 entry level model.
By the way, at $160k, the standard GT3 is getting awfully close to MP4-12C used prices.
02-18-2013, 07:44 PM
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02-18-2013, 07:48 PM
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02-18-2013, 07:54 PM
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To be fair, Preuninger alleged that this was done for weight savings when the car was unveiled ~4 years ago. If that were their primary goal, why not just fit lighter 5 lug wheels? Both 997.1 and 997.2 GT3 (RS) wheels are somewhat heavier than popular - and very strong - aftermarket options.
02-18-2013, 07:54 PM
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It is nice that they have a redundant shifter on the center console in addition to the paddles.
My Cayenne can be shifted on the steering wheel or the center console and it is convenient.
The Fiat is a PITA. When I drive to the Cars and Coffee, I typically stop by Starbucks to grab the coffee, so I bring the car and the coffee to the static race. Problem is that Fiat did not add cup holders to save weight so I have to hold Hot Coffee with the right hand, and drive one-handed GT3DE style with the left, so I can only downshift, and I cannot upshift unless I switch hands on the Coffee, it takes a lot of time.
A center console shifting lever allows me to shift gears up and down with coffee on hand. .
My Cayenne can be shifted on the steering wheel or the center console and it is convenient.
The Fiat is a PITA. When I drive to the Cars and Coffee, I typically stop by Starbucks to grab the coffee, so I bring the car and the coffee to the static race. Problem is that Fiat did not add cup holders to save weight so I have to hold Hot Coffee with the right hand, and drive one-handed GT3DE style with the left, so I can only downshift, and I cannot upshift unless I switch hands on the Coffee, it takes a lot of time.
A center console shifting lever allows me to shift gears up and down with coffee on hand. .
Come on Rad- you know as well as anyone that you can run the Fiat in full auto mode so you can sip the mocha without using the paddles. The center lever is stupid.
02-18-2013, 07:54 PM
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We didn't touch the caliper, we machined the wheel to fit it and still have easy mounting for heavy track tire beads (Michelin slicks) to slide over the barrel. Send me your caliper info and I will see if we can cut something that will work.
02-18-2013, 07:58 PM
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02-18-2013, 08:15 PM
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The American market needs flappy paddles, a center console redundant shifter, at least two cup holders, an iphone holder (my Fiat iphone interface doesn't work with my iPhone5 anymore), sunroof, cushy seats with memory, bluetooth, navigation, front and rear axle lift, exhaust with loud mode and quiet mode, 30 mpg on the highway