Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor

Well, gosh, Peter, you are no the only person in the world, now are you?

Originally Posted by TRAKCAR

No, but I'm the only one that I need to convince there's sometjhing to worry about.
What are you whining about anyway, you dont have CL's. Have you ever changed them or just watched?

So what happend that you have seen first hand?

Originally Posted by pete95zhn

You guys are whining like little girl who just found out that her favourite lollipop flavour of strawberries and cream has just been replaced with double strawberries and cream...

PDK and paddleshift vs manual. Let me phrase this so that even Americans understand: Would you really like to fight against automatic assault rifles with a magazineless bolt-lock one?? The loading feeling of the latter might be authentic, genuine, original and true to tradition, but you'd find yourself dead pretty soon...

Centerlocks. The majority of GT3's with centerlocks have kept their wheels on. You just have to use proper tools and procedures for the job to be done correctly. Don't blame the mirror if you don't like the picture you see.

Engine. Most likely a magnificent one (again) even though it might have some relation to 9A1. It'll be a continuation to Porsche's proud racing heritage, just wait and see.

20" wheels. It's the future and although 19" would/will fit the chassis is tuned to those.

Exterior. Not much to complaint. As stated from previous posts the final verion will be slightly different ( Read: Even more awesome.) Again just wait the Geneva show...

Exterior. OK, here's something to improve. Although the center console has family connection to Carrera GT it's IMO to much...I hope that the RS has more simple one.

All above just my 2 cents...

Originally Posted by Sweeper

"PDK and paddleshift vs manual. Let me phrase this so that even Americans understand: Would you really like to fight against automatic assault rifles with a magazineless bolt-lock one?? The loading feeling of the latter might be authentic, genuine, original and true to tradition, but you'd find yourself dead pretty soon..."





Let me explain it so you can understand "Who cares what you think". Bad analogy, you wouldn't want me on the side of the "bolt Lock Rifle"

Originally Posted by wanna911

You are comparing a hobby to a gun fight? Sorry don't get the correlation. But I'll play.

Though I'll gladly take my chances in a manual 991 vs the quality of drivers the PDK is going to attract.

So yeah, I'll take the bolt-action and some skill and accuracy vs spray and pray knuckleheads with no skill.

You seem to have completely missed the point on the CL. The point is that they are a PITA, and for NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER!!!! They don't do anything but require more effort to change, don't shed any weight, require more maintenance, have shorter life span, and add more risk.

20" wheels are not the future. If they were, we would be seeing them on pro racing cars in pro racing series. How many 20" wheels have you seen in Grand-Am, ALMS, FIA GT, Lemans, etc etc etc?

Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor

+2

Originally Posted by mdrums

+3!!!

...and I'm a PDK guy too...but not by my choice ( hint.... don't ride motorcycles)..however PDK has been awesome. Center Locks SUCK...plain and simple...SUCK!

Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor

I have helped & I have watched, incredulous that a major car company as prestigious as Porsche would dare foist such utter **** onto a $100,000 car. And now--even after the recalls & changing maintenance schedule & demands that CUSTOMERS pay for a 4200 mile replacement schedule (to which I would say PHUQUE YOU), they are putting them in the next generation of cars? LMFAO.

First hand? Well, for example, we recently had a GT2RS stop dead on track due to CL problems (the owner is extremely fastidious about his CL's too). Wheels stayed on...barely...luckily. But car had to be towed in.

Originally Posted by aussie jimmy

and that's the point here.
even though the failure rate may be low as a total percentage,
when you tracking at such high speeds, you don't need any more variables.
too many variables already.

Originally Posted by 911SLOW

"The rear wing is fixed and adjustable, just like the current GT cars" "Nothing looks electronic or automatic"

I see a different center air scoop and therefore probably a different air-box / intake.

Originally Posted by Macca

Yes that's correct and what i was referring too. My belief is this black car is only partially unveiled (i.e. front and rear bumpers and all hardware - brakes etc). I think for the show they will keep a few surprises (final wheel design, door mirrors, final rear spoiler). I believe too they will need to choose a new "signature color" for this model. It will probably be a new shade of white but would be nice if they added Maritime Blue to the standard color palette again to go with the racing yellow and red they have...

Originally Posted by TRAKCAR

Bunch of whiners..

Originally Posted by savyboy

If there is one thing that has really soured me from the Porsche brand it is the mark-up on options which is obscene to anyone who understands the nature of what they are paying the extra thousands for. Shameless.

Originally Posted by 996FLT6

Cupcar mirrors have terrible visibility. Passenger side can't see crap!!! Mike

Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor

Well, for example, we recently had a GT2RS stop dead on track due to CL problems (the owner is extremely fastidious about his CL's too). Wheels stayed on...barely...luckily. But car had to be towed in.

Originally Posted by savyboy

Is this the same 2RS mentioned in another thread where I asked for detail/pics? Might have missed it, but never saw a reply with info. Halfway hearsay info is worse than worthless because it just stirs up a lot of emotion that has no basis in facts and nothing can be learned from it. Not disputing the guys car broke, but why?