New 991 GT3 / Exclusive pics and information. The real deal & at last some good news!
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To me this just seems crazy. How wide are they going to make these cars? I look at the picture below comparing the 997.2 GT3 to the 991 GT3 and think you wouldnt want to go any wider or you would spoil the shape, now they are talking about wider at the rear again? Looks rather weird i reckon. What happened to the "coke bottle" lines...?
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Pete. Just covert your short wheel base long hood with GT3 transplant. That thing must be quite potent. Im very suprised more havent attempted to put GT3 engine into older chassis - Im guessing not easy and rather expensive transplant.
Heres the rear of my "normal body" 993. plenty fat enough for me. Cant see what adding another 30mm to the rear of the turbo over the GT3/4S actually achieves other than higher CD and weight...
Heres the rear of my "normal body" 993. plenty fat enough for me. Cant see what adding another 30mm to the rear of the turbo over the GT3/4S actually achieves other than higher CD and weight...
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In the above picture, the red 997 GT3 is a narrowbody. The 991 GT3 (sic) is already a C4 widebody.
Whether they bring out a further evolution of the rear or not, is anyone's guess.
Remember that 991 RSR is apparently homologated on a 991 C4 tub.
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Whether they bring out a further evolution of the rear or not, is anyone's guess.
Remember that 991 RSR is apparently homologated on a 991 C4 tub.
Best, J
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To me this just seems crazy. How wide are they going to make these cars? I look at the picture below comparing the 997.2 GT3 to the 991 GT3 and think you wouldnt want to go any wider or you would spoil the shape, now they are talking about wider at the rear again? Looks rather weird i reckon. What happened to the "coke bottle" lines...?
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If the RS gets the bladder splitter thing (please don't let it have "RS" printed on it ... who the hell is on the design team willing to say "no" to all the tacky labels they stick on the 911?) or active aero, that's all fine. I think we (buyers/drivers) have to concede that Porsche is on a bent of features and technology, not "add lightness." For all the weight and hefty price, where's that rumored triple turbo?
The wider, the better. Bring on the RSR bodied road car. No, not really, but I see no problem in the extra girth of the 1.1 inches added to the hips of the turbo cars, just do it in painted CF and cut the curb weight.
The only criticism I have so far for the turbo is the curb weight.
When I saw the announcement of the turbo and turbo S simultaneously, the vane thought popped into my head that there could be a 2WD turbo again. Oh well.
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I think the 991 RS has to have (mandatory or at the very least, on the option list) the painted carbon panels (front quarters, frunk, roof, engine cover, decklid, wing) and canards (flics) of the RS 4.0 ... that's a minimum, in my estimation.
If the RS gets the bladder splitter thing (please don't let it have "RS" printed on it ... who the hell is on the design team willing to say "no" to all the tacky labels they stick on the 911?) or active aero, that's all fine. I think we (buyers/drivers) have to concede that Porsche is on a bent of features and technology, not "add lightness." For all the weight and hefty price, where's that rumored triple turbo?
The wider, the better. Bring on the RSR bodied road car. No, not really, but I see no problem in the extra girth of the 1.1 inches added to the hips of the turbo cars, just do it in painted CF and cut the curb weight.
The only criticism I have so far for the turbo is the curb weight.
When I saw the announcement of the turbo and turbo S simultaneously, the vane thought popped into my head that there could be a 2WD turbo again. Oh well.
If the RS gets the bladder splitter thing (please don't let it have "RS" printed on it ... who the hell is on the design team willing to say "no" to all the tacky labels they stick on the 911?) or active aero, that's all fine. I think we (buyers/drivers) have to concede that Porsche is on a bent of features and technology, not "add lightness." For all the weight and hefty price, where's that rumored triple turbo?
The wider, the better. Bring on the RSR bodied road car. No, not really, but I see no problem in the extra girth of the 1.1 inches added to the hips of the turbo cars, just do it in painted CF and cut the curb weight.
The only criticism I have so far for the turbo is the curb weight.
When I saw the announcement of the turbo and turbo S simultaneously, the vane thought popped into my head that there could be a 2WD turbo again. Oh well.
Ah, 2WD Turbo ... I think you are dreaming of bygone years my friend...
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I think the 991 RS has to have (mandatory or at the very least, on the option list) the painted carbon panels (front quarters, frunk, roof, engine cover, decklid, wing) and canards (flics) of the RS 4.0 ... that's a minimum, in my estimation.
If the RS gets the bladder splitter thing (please don't let it have "RS" printed on it ... who the hell is on the design team willing to say "no" to all the tacky labels they stick on the 911?) or active aero, that's all fine. I think we (buyers/drivers) have to concede that Porsche is on a bent of features and technology, not "add lightness." For all the weight and hefty price, where's that rumored triple turbo?
The wider, the better. Bring on the RSR bodied road car. No, not really, but I see no problem in the extra girth of the 1.1 inches added to the hips of the turbo cars, just do it in painted CF and cut the curb weight.
The only criticism I have so far for the turbo is the curb weight.
When I saw the announcement of the turbo and turbo S simultaneously, the vane thought popped into my head that there could be a 2WD turbo again. Oh well.
If the RS gets the bladder splitter thing (please don't let it have "RS" printed on it ... who the hell is on the design team willing to say "no" to all the tacky labels they stick on the 911?) or active aero, that's all fine. I think we (buyers/drivers) have to concede that Porsche is on a bent of features and technology, not "add lightness." For all the weight and hefty price, where's that rumored triple turbo?
The wider, the better. Bring on the RSR bodied road car. No, not really, but I see no problem in the extra girth of the 1.1 inches added to the hips of the turbo cars, just do it in painted CF and cut the curb weight.
The only criticism I have so far for the turbo is the curb weight.
When I saw the announcement of the turbo and turbo S simultaneously, the vane thought popped into my head that there could be a 2WD turbo again. Oh well.
No worries; it has a Haldex!
That means that it's neither 2wd nor 4wd. In fact you'll never know what it is. I'd bet all my money in Cyprus.
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Why the 991 turbo's aren't in the 600+ hp range is inexcusable. I guess the five year plan for these cars becomes unwieldy if they don't nobble the early model years with limited horsepower.
Porsche could have gone to a 9000 rpm turbo -- they have the engine that could do the work and, mated to PDK, they could have all but eliminated high rpm turbo lag (and stuffed that rumored third turbo in there.) Maybe a triple turbo 9000 rpm turbo is "next." At $200K for the Turbo S, Porsche certainly isn't targeting me as a customer.
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Guys. I dont know about you but the rear view of the new "wider" turbo body below looks ridiculous to me. I think they have spoiled the rear fender lines an it just looks all too square. Rather the C3/GT3 rear IMHO!