apax

Hello and thank you in advance for your help.
As the title states I'm looking at a 2015 GT3 8,XXX miles 1 owner 11/14 build date. The car is a CPO. My hesitation is I have been reading on this site regarding the engine problems and as this is going to be my 1st Porsche I thought I would ask the "experts" for some guidance.

Once again thank you for your help.

catdog2

It's an excellent car as all GT3's are, however the engine replacement warranty by Porsche does not go on forever and not being a 2016 is likely possibly affected so you have to factor that in your budget. Unfortunately current crazy GT3 prices even for 991.1 gen leaves you less $$ to do that. So I would say try to find a 991.2 GT3 or wait until/if prices come down back to earth.

apax

Thanks for the quick reply. My question is what is the % of the .1 that have been affected by the engine failure? I agree that the prices are crazy now but I drove one and I have to have one. I would love a .2 but they have really gone crazy and I don't know why there are so many available?

Franko T

Don't let the engine thing scare you. Only let it scare you if you want to park it in the garage for 10 years. If you want to drive it, drive it! Enjoy it. If something happens to the engine its covered til 2024, if you enjoyed it enough and nothing breaks its probably a good engine.

apax

My other concern is I don't know how this is going to affect re-sale. If the engine doesn't fail by 2024 what kind of hit would the .1 take.

Franko T

You're thinking too much, if you are that worried just get the newer one. By then i'm sure someone find the FIX for the engine which lets say is even 10K, would be worth it. Think of it like this the 2016 RS have engine failures too, but nobody is scared to buy those. Zero warranty.

thuggo

Even IF the engine does fail, all them have failed due to the same issue even the G series in the 2016s. The value once 2024 of a 991.1 GT3 will drop like a rock because of it, until someone comes out with the real fix to the engine.

Franko T

Please show us the facts of how many G engines went bad? Fact of the matter is brand new engines from Porsche including GT4 are going bad, no engine is 100% I'm also sure by then you can find an extended warranty.

Fact the E engine is lasting 50K+ miles as proof here:
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1269573

So it maybe not all engines have the problem. Also keep in mind, some dumbasses might be revving these engines before its warmed up causing damage.

zedcat

Does the car you're looking at have the original engine? How will you use the car- track use? If it's the original and you will track it regularly, chances are good you can induce failure and get a new engine within the remaining 3 years internal engine components warranty. Only Porsche know the failure frequency, but from observation many have had the finger follower failure. Of those I know used on track most have had replacements. No one knows what values will do when the warranty runs out but there will likely be downward pressure- not much help I know.

catdog2

2024 is 2 years from now so resale should take hit close to and after 2024 but stabilize after that. Either walk away if you can calm your excitement and if you gotta have it then you gotta have it... just get it and enjoy it for a year and reassess the market and risks/benefits of keeping it vs selling it then or trading it for a .2 or a .1 3RS

ipse dixit

By 2024, that'll be 10 years from the date the car was born.

Lots of cars, with and without engine recalls, will have engine failures 10 years out from the date of their birth.

Just to put things in perspective.

apax

From what I can see on the Carfax it has the original engine. I'm waiting for the dealer to send me all the service records. As far as use, I will not track the car on a regular basis more of some spirited driving on the weekends.

apax

Yes I understand that. Does the recall add to the "problem"? Does the Porsche enthusiast look past recall?

pfbz

I personally would want:

A 991.2 GT3 or 991.1 RS without the issue,
-or-
A 991.1 GT3 with a replaced G revision engine (and still not want to pay the current premiums on it)
-or-
Buy a 991.1 GT3 with an original engine and plan on tracking it frequently while under warranty until it fails, which it will.

IMHO the absolute worst thing would be to buy a low mileage, original engine 991.1 GT3 and continue to have it as a garage queen for the next few years until the extended warranty is expired.

Flame suit on, I'm sure opinions vary.

Franko T

"Porsche's Second Presentation: Understanding The Issue
Dr. Walliser ran this presentation. He explained the cause of the finger follower wear issue, and the steps Porsche has taken to resolve it. Without getting into a great amount of detail, which we are unqualified to do, the issue is caused by a metallurgy defect (inclusion) close to the surface of the finger follower. Most finger followers do not have these inclusions, or they are not close enough to the surface to cause increased finger follower wear. This explains why the vast majority of 991.1 GT3's do not, and most likely will never experience this problem."