The 991 GT3/RS Cars For Sale Thread...
#5851
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still good money. a small reality check for those "investor" owners. "th3Y 0nlY gO uP!!!"
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GT3 Mike (10-18-2022)
#5852
Nordschleife Master
Ok, this just ended at BAT: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...omments-anchor, the fashion gray one in discussion
MSRP was $185+, but who knows what the actual purchase price was. Sold on BAT may 2022 for $236,000.00, now just resold for reportedly $205,000.00
Intersting. Dunno what to make of it, but I'm sure you all can .
MSRP was $185+, but who knows what the actual purchase price was. Sold on BAT may 2022 for $236,000.00, now just resold for reportedly $205,000.00
Intersting. Dunno what to make of it, but I'm sure you all can .
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Burren (10-18-2022)
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GT3 Mike (10-18-2022)
#5854
I think I admire bat for representing 0.000000000000000000000001% of the nationwide auto sales and being discussed daily like some sort of index, hell of a job by that team
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#5855
Still waiting for the proper color / options combo, but I am certainly not unhappy to see some price correction here and there in the meantime.
#5856
How would you know what the cars listed on cars dot com or at dealerships go for?
A lot of it is smoke and mirrors, including dealers selling to one another as has been extensively described here… so we are left with BaT, PCar and other members who are willing to share on their own deals.
Do you have other sources you feel you can trust on this matter?
#5857
Well, it represents a small fraction, but at least the SALE price is transparent for all to see.
How would you know what the cars listed on cars dot com or at dealerships go for?
A lot of it is smoke and mirrors, including dealers selling to one another as has been extensively described here… so we are left with BaT, PCar and other members who are willing to share on their own deals.
Do you have other sources you feel you can trust on this matter?
How would you know what the cars listed on cars dot com or at dealerships go for?
A lot of it is smoke and mirrors, including dealers selling to one another as has been extensively described here… so we are left with BaT, PCar and other members who are willing to share on their own deals.
Do you have other sources you feel you can trust on this matter?
Plenty of buyers have shared purchase and/or trade in details here, we don't hang on their every transaction like it's value gospel, compellingly representative of more than that one transaction on that day.
The mannheim data I see posted from time to time seems a better source of trend/future to me.
And having negotiated for numerous cars, traded some, I don't dismiss list prices. Odds are the "real" market is within a reasonable % of list. It's not like the avg list price of a 991.2 is 190k (speculating) but really, in the dead of night, dealers are moving them for 50k less.
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no401k (10-18-2022)
#5859
A change of market is to be expected. The expectation of value creation is what drives discretionary purchases such as luxury cars. And for many it's difficult to believe in strong value creation when headlines talk of recession, falling real estate prices and still-increasing interest rates.
Different market altogether, but you had to promise your first-born and a kidney to get offered a new Range Rover a few months ago. I got two voice mails this week with offers.
Different market altogether, but you had to promise your first-born and a kidney to get offered a new Range Rover a few months ago. I got two voice mails this week with offers.
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maroli (10-19-2022)
#5860
i thought i had bought the lava one from collectingcars over the weekend but the seller flaked out or the auction site convinced him to just rerun the car... the search continues
#5861
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#5862
both the seller and auction company were less than helpful
#5863
Rennlist Member
sounds like you dodged a bullet. interesting that you were outbid and they called you immediately to make a deal. did the winning bidder tell them to kick rocks? i would think he would get the option to work out a deal first, no?.
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#5864
i would have happily done that deal with some basic questions answered or a ppi, that was a lovely color you dont see often even if the spec was light
#5865
A change of market is to be expected. The expectation of value creation is what drives discretionary purchases such as luxury cars. And for many it's difficult to believe in strong value creation when headlines talk of recession, falling real estate prices and still-increasing interest rates.
Different market altogether, but you had to promise your first-born and a kidney to get offered a new Range Rover a few months ago. I got two voice mails this week with offers.
Different market altogether, but you had to promise your first-born and a kidney to get offered a new Range Rover a few months ago. I got two voice mails this week with offers.