991.1 GT3RS vs 991.2 GT3RS - Is difference worth $50,000+?
#1
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991.1 GT3RS vs 991.2 GT3RS - Is difference worth $50,000+?
Title says it. One idea is to buy the car that has already depreciated and won't really depreciate a whole a lot more, drive it a year or two while the price of the .2 comes down to the same levels.
But I wanted to find out from people who drove both, that whether the difference between them is worth $50,000 or more. I understand that new RS has a newer engine, more torque, has substantially stiffer springs, it has apple carplay and new PCM (so yes I did do my homework). But I dont know if these things add up to $50,000.
Car will never be tracked. It is for fun weekend driving.
Before anyone asks, no GT3 is too soft/understated for me. I need the big wing and wider body
But I wanted to find out from people who drove both, that whether the difference between them is worth $50,000 or more. I understand that new RS has a newer engine, more torque, has substantially stiffer springs, it has apple carplay and new PCM (so yes I did do my homework). But I dont know if these things add up to $50,000.
Car will never be tracked. It is for fun weekend driving.
Before anyone asks, no GT3 is too soft/understated for me. I need the big wing and wider body
#2
Originally Posted by Fang911
Love the GT3...but made the “mistake” of driving a ‘19 3RS recently and would like to see if the sharper turn-in and increased feel / stability / edginess can be bestowed upon its little brother. Although a daily driver, I would have no issues with the stock GT3RS suspension 24-7. Besides trading in my car, what would you all recommend? Would the BBi Autosport StreetCup Suspension accomplish this?
i know what you mean...i have driven 991.1 GT3, 991.2 GT3 and owned a 991.1 RS but get bored after 3-4 months (felt always to soft and not wild enough;-)) after that i have said to myself no more 991.
But after driving 991.2 RS i have to say its a game changer in the 991 line.
superb body control (best street car experience so far), best/sharpest front end of any 911, amazing PDK, engine sounds good power und revs good, RWS/ABS seems recalibrated vs. other 991 GT cars.
Love the GT3...but made the “mistake” of driving a ‘19 3RS recently and would like to see if the sharper turn-in and increased feel / stability / edginess can be bestowed upon its little brother. Although a daily driver, I would have no issues with the stock GT3RS suspension 24-7. Besides trading in my car, what would you all recommend? Would the BBi Autosport StreetCup Suspension accomplish this?
i know what you mean...i have driven 991.1 GT3, 991.2 GT3 and owned a 991.1 RS but get bored after 3-4 months (felt always to soft and not wild enough;-)) after that i have said to myself no more 991.
But after driving 991.2 RS i have to say its a game changer in the 991 line.
superb body control (best street car experience so far), best/sharpest front end of any 911, amazing PDK, engine sounds good power und revs good, RWS/ABS seems recalibrated vs. other 991 GT cars.
#3
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No- the .2 is not worth more than $50,000 than the .1. Quite a few on this Forum just want the latest and greatest which works out great for those wanting to pick up their scraps. Wait until the 992 RS comes out and many will start dumping their 991.2s
It is actually a great time to score a deal on a .1
It is actually a great time to score a deal on a .1
#4
Ill chime in and so no. I drove both and bought the .1RS for this exact reason, money. Money means a lot to me and the differences didn't add up to me. I did do a sharkerks bypass exhaust and that made the sound i wanted. Otherwise the differences didn't add up to me. However, money being no object, grab a .2 and don't look back.
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Of course money is object. And it is for two reasons:
1) I am not a person who would want to spend even $1 more on something if I can avoid it. This has nothing to do with wealth and financial ability. It's more of a mentality.
2) Money is object in these market conditions where I'm sure anyone would want to keep the extra $50,000 in the bank.
1) I am not a person who would want to spend even $1 more on something if I can avoid it. This has nothing to do with wealth and financial ability. It's more of a mentality.
2) Money is object in these market conditions where I'm sure anyone would want to keep the extra $50,000 in the bank.
#6
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Of course money is object. And it is for two reasons:
1) I am not a person who would want to spend even $1 more on something if I can avoid it. This has nothing to do with wealth and financial ability. It's more of a mentality.
2) Money is object in these market conditions where I'm sure anyone would want to keep the extra $50,000 in the bank.
1) I am not a person who would want to spend even $1 more on something if I can avoid it. This has nothing to do with wealth and financial ability. It's more of a mentality.
2) Money is object in these market conditions where I'm sure anyone would want to keep the extra $50,000 in the bank.
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Title says it. One idea is to buy the car that has already depreciated and won't really depreciate a whole a lot more, drive it a year or two while the price of the .2 comes down to the same levels.
But I wanted to find out from people who drove both, that whether the difference between them is worth $50,000 or more. I understand that new RS has a newer engine, more torque, has substantially stiffer springs, it has apple carplay and new PCM (so yes I did do my homework). But I dont know if these things add up to $50,000.
Car will never be tracked. It is for fun weekend driving.
Before anyone asks, no GT3 is too soft/understated for me. I need the big wing and wider body
But I wanted to find out from people who drove both, that whether the difference between them is worth $50,000 or more. I understand that new RS has a newer engine, more torque, has substantially stiffer springs, it has apple carplay and new PCM (so yes I did do my homework). But I dont know if these things add up to $50,000.
Car will never be tracked. It is for fun weekend driving.
Before anyone asks, no GT3 is too soft/understated for me. I need the big wing and wider body
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NO! Fast forward 5-10 years and value. I just picked up loaded 16RS and couldn't be happier. I have a few friends with .2RS and they are having engine issues and oil leak.
#11
Had 5k miles in .1 RS and 2k in .2RS. .2 is definitely better but .1 is such an amazing car for 150k. 99% the same. And I'd love to tell you its worlds different for your use.......it just isn't.
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#12
I have owned both the .1 and .2 RS. The .2 RS is dialed in quite well and it's capabilities are truly impressive. However, the .1 when set up properly and with equal rubber is also quite impressive. In fact, I recently sold my .2 and went back to a .1. I did so because it makes more sense to me financially in the current economic climate, but also because there is something about the .1 that I really like. It's hard to put my finger on it. I think it's a rawness in terms of looks and performance that the more polished .2 doesn't exhibit. I am not saying it's as profound of a difference as you sometimes find between generations (eg. 997 to 991), but there is definitely a difference you can see and feel. Just compare the front ends of the .1 and .2 and I think you may understand what I am talking about. The .1 looks rather transitional between the 997 and 991 as opposed to fully settled into the new style like the .2. I think this ethos can be found throughout the.1. For example, the .1 seems cleaner with no side decals while displaying only the subtle GT3RS decal on the engine cover. This clean parsimonious trend continues with the painted hood, roof, and wing on the .1 as opposed to the Wiessach package option on the .2 where these elements are exposed carbon fiber. This difference in looks is subjective as to whether one likes it or dislikes it, but it is certainly an expense with limited return. Also, I like the color choices better on the .1 with Ultraviolet being one of my favorite all time Porsche GT3RS colors. I had the Ultraviolet when the .1 was new and I went out and found a like new Ultraviolet with low mileage to replace the .2 when i sold it recently. I really missed the .1 when I sold it in spite of the fact I was driving a .2, and I am glad to have it back. I don't find myself missing the .2 or regretting my decision to sell it. The .2 is an incredible car and is a testament to Porsche's unrelenting development of the GT line, but if your not trying to shed some time on track, which you apparently aren't; as you said you will only be using it on the street, then the .1 with a -50k delta is a great choice. Long story short, there is a performance delta between the two cars for those who track, but for most people I think that 50k is not small change, especially in the current economic climate.
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UV is my FAV
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#15
Track car, what do you mean pdk? Why would you need to reprogram the gear box? Would you please clarify? By the way, I'm not suggesting that the .1 is not capable on the track because it is, albeit it's not as evolved as the .2.